Author Topic: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming! (Read 35338 times)

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #375 on:** August 29, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »

I've already started building an anti-Bowlyn Boey. (Gronnraven+, TWA, Bowbreaker3). Earth Boost isn't bad I suppose, but TWA also offers help against Reinhardt.

I'm torn between Lyn and Ike on the new people.

Laggy · « **Reply #376 on:** August 29, 2017, 09:36:13 PM »

Pulling colorless is hell so I'm definitely going to just run with Lyn for the freebie

Shale · « **Reply #377 on:** August 29, 2017, 10:19:14 PM »

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on August 29, 2017, 08:10:24 PM

Just for the record this is not unexpected. You will typically get around one 5-star character per 60-something orbs (specifics depending on whether you do full draws or snipe one or two colours).

Yeah, but even when it's balanced in terms of overall cost/reward ratios it's still frustrating and not great design to blank on 2-4 full summons for every one that turns up something you actually wanted. It'd be different if there were 60-orb full summons, or focus 3/4 star units so I could pick a banner based on those and have a decent chance of coming away with something I was after, even if it's not a grand prize.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #378 on:** August 30, 2017, 06:51:35 PM »

Quote from: Shale on August 29, 2017, 10:19:14 PM

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on August 29, 2017, 08:10:24 PM
Just for the record this is not unexpected. You will typically get around one 5-star character per 60-something orbs (specifics depending on whether you do full draws or snipe one or two colours).

Yeah, but even when it's balanced in terms of overall cost/reward ratios it's still frustrating and not great design to blank on 2-4 full summons for every one that turns up something you actually wanted. It'd be different if there were 60-orb full summons, or focus 3/4 star units so I could pick a banner based on those and have a decent chance of coming away with something I was after, even if it's not a grand prize.

I never thought I'd say this, but FFRK spoiled the hell out of us with guaranteed 5*s.

Shale · « **Reply #379 on:** August 30, 2017, 08:26:20 PM »

Guarantees would be awesome, but it's more about grouping pulls into units where you're at least probably going to get something good from each. Even before G5, FFRK's 11 pulls were statistically more likely than not to deliver at least one banner relic, while the odds are that a full summon in FEH will only have 3* and 4* characters.

Lord Ephraim · « **Reply #380 on:** August 31, 2017, 05:28:13 AM »

I had to readd a bunch of people on my friendlist after moving my account a new device after 3 months of inactivity. I thought I was banned for playing on an emulator for a week but I'm still ranked in arena (albeit dropped a few ranks).

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #381 on:** August 31, 2017, 10:47:51 AM »

Glad there's a banner full of boring characters so I can accumulate Orbs again for Pumpkin Spice Xander. (Managed to snag Innes on the last day of that banner, too. Yay!)

Lord Ephraim · « **Reply #382 on:** August 31, 2017, 10:50:59 AM »

Is this is what it's like to be lucky?

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #383 on:** August 31, 2017, 04:09:58 PM »

Hopefully he's good sacrifice bait

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #384 on:** August 31, 2017, 07:46:48 PM »

Roy is still really good.

I wussed out and took Lyn. Dropped 45 orbs, some useful 4*'s (+Spd -HP Nino, +Atk -Def Fae to use, an Effie for DB2 and a Bartre for Fury3), 2 Selenas for yummy Reposition, but no further Brave units yet. Also got a Seth (+Def -Res) which I'm considering using as a(n insanely expensive) project anti-Bowlyn unit. Either that or give Fortress Def to another unit which would be anti-bowlyn. Fortress Def puts his Def on a good footing to take hits from her, and he has the mobility to leap out and hit her. If he doesn't kill, he still has Seal Atk/Def to cut down on her offense/leave her vulnerable for later. Though I guess he would be easy pickings for any accompanying Reinhardts.

Lord Ephraim · « **Reply #385 on:** August 31, 2017, 09:01:17 PM »

All of the Brave units are good. Though I think Ike is the worst. He's suppose to be designed as a melee tank but those don't really work in this game. Without Distant Counter he cannot defend himself against mages and even with Urvan he takes a significant amount of damage. His stat spread doesn't seem that impressive. I look at him, then look at Bartre and think "what can Ike do than Bartre cannot?" Bartre is designed as a Brave Axe+ infantry and does that well. Ike can too but loses his niché. I'd say slap DC on him and have Reinhardts suicide into him, I think that's what he does best.

Honestly just take Lyn to avoid colorless orbs for a long long time. Rolling for Lyn only to be Maria'd or Lachesis'd would be devastating.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #386 on:** August 31, 2017, 11:26:20 PM »

Ike has a crucial speed lead on Bartre, which makes him harder to double and can even let him double some slower folks (with speed buffs) even if he goes Brave Axe. Bartre also feels just totally outclassed by Cherche as far as slow but powerful Brave Axe wielders go, and physical brave users already feel inferior to ranged ones due to the role they play (attacking then avoiding enemy phase combat).

I haven't decided if I'm going to draw from this banner yet. Increasingly leaning towards getting Lyn regardless so I should probably just take that plunge. I also got Innes on the last day of his banner so I'll suddenly have more archers than I really need but oh well.

Laggy · « **Reply #387 on:** September 01, 2017, 01:09:37 AM »

Ike is better than he looks. Urvan's damage reduction does not apply only to brave weapons but to ANY consecutive attacks, which includes getting doubled. So ranged units that attack him will have their second hit cut by 80%; melee units who bait him and double on the counter will also see their second hit reduced in damage.

Steady Breath is also pretty crazy. Urvan's a Killer weapon and Steady Breath gives him 2 charge when he gets hit, so he instantly counters with a 3 charge special if struck in melee. 4 charge if he's using Quickened Pulse. With Bonfire or Ignis set respectively that's +19 or +31 damage, or 81 (!) damage counter. He has 35 defense so it's very unlikely you're OHKOing him physically. If you're a horse or flier mage your buffs won't work, so it's pretty much infantry blade mage or GTFO if you're trying to kill him in one turn (if you aren't running Blade it's unlikely you'll kill him since he resists doubles so hard... red mages being the exception but they're rare.) That's a much smaller list of things that kill him vs Bartre.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #388 on:** September 01, 2017, 01:53:25 AM »

I wouldn't say red mages are that rare myself, but it doesn't matter since it's a given that they kill the low-res greens being discussed. Agreed that Ike tanking with Urvan is much more interesting/promising than him running a Brave build.

Can we talk about how awful the wording is on Steady Breath/etc. by the way? And since we're talking about Ike, Beorc's Blessing as well? I feel like FEH started out doing quite well with wording but some of the more recent skills pretty much required someone to translate the Japanese to understand what they did prior to actual testing.

metroid composite · « **Reply #389 on:** September 02, 2017, 09:02:38 AM »

Since this hasn't been posted here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q6khJsnX94

And yeah, Ike is legit. Because he has so many abilities that reduce the cost of specials, after being hit once with a sword he can counter with Ignis. Ignis from 39 DEF hurts, most sword users just get one-shotted (barring triangle adept). When people are giving their red sword users triangle adept AND axebreaker just so that they don't lose to ike, things are pretty serious.

(He dies to red/green mages, but not so much the horse-riding ones since he cancels their buffs, and some people will give their ikes distant counter).

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #390 on:** September 02, 2017, 12:39:00 PM »

Getting ready to snag bonuses off this Voting Gauntlet. I will be joining Team Lyn after this, I think. But I will always be on Team Boobies in my heart.

Shale · « **Reply #391 on:** September 02, 2017, 03:00:43 PM »

Team Hector may be doomed against Ike, but I did manage to kill an Ike/Ike/Xander team set up for full Vantage cheese with two Hectors and a non-Vantage archer, so there's that.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #392 on:** September 02, 2017, 03:57:31 PM »

Good for bonus time anyway. Caught the first one, already at 6k rank in army. 850K total points so far thanks to starting on Team Chrom.

VySaika · « **Reply #393 on:** September 03, 2017, 07:09:50 PM »

Got back into the game after not playing for a bit(blame Fate GO), p.much entirely due to the new brave units. Grabbed Ike because of course I did.

Also proceeded to dump orbs on the banner with what I had saved up from before. In...~15 pulls(the free draw on everything that was current + 2 full 5 orb pulls) I got 3 five stars.

All off banner.

Not one that's actually good.

1 Priscilla and 2 Rebeccas. One of the Rebeccas is spd+ at least, so I guess I'll level her up.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #394 on:** September 03, 2017, 07:47:57 PM »

Colorless Hell~

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #395 on:** September 06, 2017, 12:56:59 AM »

So after 107 orbs, I finally pulled a Brave. Ike, +Res -HP. Not one of his good ones, but won't cripple him either.

Also I pulled a 5* -Atk Cain immediately after. Uh. What character wants a Brave Sword+, I guess?

Shale · « **Reply #396 on:** September 06, 2017, 02:59:55 AM »

I got a +ATK/-HP Brave Roy, who is the glassest of cannons. Even stronger and more fragile than Minerva. Also a +ATK/-SPD Effie, which is her ideal nature so the +HP/-DEF version I drew months ago is now fodder.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #397 on:** September 06, 2017, 06:07:14 PM »

So ended up profiting 10,700 feathers total off the last voting gauntlet. My best to date, and it could been better if I'd not run out of flags during Camilla's last bonus time. Missing those 200 feathers took me from the first to the second.

So wondering what were peoples' impressions of Artillery Clarisse were, if they ended up using her? I stuck her in there out of curiosity (and to help with the quests since people generally don't put colorless in the 1 spot). Mostly got Ciato's Reinhardt and Twil and/or Shale's Brave Roy.

Shale · « **Reply #398 on:** September 07, 2017, 05:26:11 PM »

I think that Clarisse was the one I used to take out the Ike/Ike/Xander team, so she certainly helped me.

VySaika · « **Reply #399 on:** September 07, 2017, 05:29:17 PM »

Welp. Tried to update the game and the google store page tells me "your device isn't compatible with this version". Uh...rip me, I guess?

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