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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #500 on: December 01, 2017, 12:29:00 AM »
i just use reinhardt because everyone loves reinhardt

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #501 on: December 01, 2017, 01:13:33 AM »
Djinn: Well, it'd be a tad uncreative, but if you have a spare Hector and want to make Flyer Emblem, you can steal Laggy's plan and give (vanilla) Camilla Distant Counter and an Emerald Axe+, and watch as she hard-counters The Reinhardt.  Goood luck against BowLyn though with a flying team, though.  And careful about the problems Laggy ran into with Brave Ike; Ike turns off Flyer Emblem Hone/Fortifies, so if you run a puny Red like Caeda, you'll want to use Goad and Ward Flyers instead.  (Or use H. Nowi, but....  Nowi.)  Your Blue can be whoever, really, a billion options for Blue Fliers.

If you merge your "old" Amelia into your new Amelia, the resulting Amelia will have all the skills of both.  She'll be level 1 (assuming you keep +Atk, -Spd), but that's easily fixed with level-up crystals.  (In the same way, if you fish up more 4* Tharjas, you can easily "switch" your IVs by promoting a new one with IVs you like to 5*, and merging your old one into her in a disturbing ritual, then breaking out the level-up crystals.)

Are you SURE your Fjorm is Res+, Spd-?  Or do you have two copies?  The one you get for free should be neutral.

Joshua seems a good fit for Distant Counter, since his Res is solid.  Just...   he isn't countering The Reinhardt, and I suspect B. Lyn still rips him up pretty good, so I'm not sure it's enough to merely ruin Red & Green mages day.  (I have the same dilemma right now of what to do with a Hector I ripped...  not from the Lego banner where he's a focus, but from failing to get a Swift Sparrow / Steady Breath still and getting nothing but off-banner drops.)

Anyway, your "existing" team of Tharja / Ephraim / B. Ike / (any dancer or B. Lyn) looks really solid.  B. Ike baits Rein or B. Lyn, Tharja smashes, Ephraim is an angry bard who just got a weapon refinery upgrade.  I think a B. Knight / Amelia / Julia / (some other armor) team looks solid as well; Julia baits Rein and is a source of magic damage, while the armors (especially BK) bait Bow Lyn.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #502 on: December 01, 2017, 01:49:25 AM »
First of all, who would you like to use? There are a lot of workable units there, so if there are people you'd like to use more, let me know and I can talk theorycraft and how best to use them.

Pairing Nino with either Eirika or Ephraim is great, but if you can get enough SP, blade tomes do even better in horse/armour/flier emblem.

Snowfire's armour emblem team could be improved by replacing both Amelia and Julia with Halloween Henry, who can play both their roles (crushing non-red mages, having Armour March). That leaves you with a third slot which can be used on Reinhardt, who is the best unit in the game and conveniently gives you the entire red/blue/green colour set to check all threats except colourless. Reinhardt can first-strike KO Bow Lyn, and Black Knight can bait him, or you could put Bowbreaker on Henry.

On Horse Emblem, you have both Reinhardt and Bow Lyn, that's... basically all you need. Use Eldigan as a third (Xander is better, but you'll have to wait for the next time his GHB shows up), give him Hone Cavalry and Triangle Adept (or maybe leave Fury, I dunno), and let him bust up any stray tanky greens that Reinhardt/Bow Lyn struggle with (which is basically just Brave Ike; Reinhardt with a limit one-shots Hector) and give them +6 atk/spd the rest of the time.

On Flier Emblem: If you're not willing to use Halloween Nowi, don't run Flier Emblem, as you absolutely need a mage to make it work. Honestly, with your roster, I wouldn't run Flier Emblem much in general; having none of Spring Camilla / Hinoka / Summer Corrin / Elincia / Tana makes it rough.


If you're having trouble with Bow Lyn specifically you can always invest in a raven mage (preferably green, since they also counter Reinhardt). None of the raven users are really that great but you can give their tomes to other units with better Atk have someone who regularly OHKOs two out of colours. Watch for Cancel Affinity, but remember that CA shoves out Sacae's Blessing so you can safely buff against Bow Lyns running that.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #503 on: December 01, 2017, 03:57:25 AM »
I like most characters alright. Not a fan of the little girls, though.

Red:

Black Knight
Joshua
Masked Marth
Lyn+ (Atk+)
Ryoma (Atk+)
Eldigan (Atk+, hp-)
Eirika

...I really like having Distant Counter, so BK and Ryoma fit my playstyle nicely. I also like Armor Emblem, so BK is on a lot of my teams. Arden's build looks awesome, but his art is terrifyingly realistic compared to the rest of the characters and I don't want to use him. Joshua and Lyn are my favorite characters of the swordsmen I have, but I like all of the above.

ATiki(4*)
...I just like Dragons and Adult Tiki.

Tharja (Atk-, fully SI'd, sigh) Need a new one, but currently no Atk+ or Spd+ ones.
Celica (hp+,def-)
Arvis(4*)
...Not a huge fan of any of the above, but I like Bladetome mages, so I want one here.

Blue:
Ephraim(Res+,HP-, full SI'd buffer)
Nephenee
Effie (Atk+, Brave+)
Fjorm
Fjorm (res+,spd-)

...Nephenee is probably my favorite character here. But I love Distant Counter, so Fjorm is a good candidate. I spent a lot of feathers on getting that Brave+ Effie, so I'd like to get some use out of her. Ephraim was my first lance-user I ever pulled.

Ninian
Shigure (hp+,def-)
...I like Dragons AND Dancers! So I'd happy using either of these. It's worth noting that I don't have any 5* red Dragons to inherit Lightning Breath+ from, though. So I need a lot of feathers to make Ninian combat-ready.

Lute (spd+,res-)
Reinhardt
BrideCaeda (spd+,res-)
...I like Caeda as a character, and her bride animations amuse me. Lute is fine though. I'm pretty much stuck raising a Reinhardt no matter what.

Green:

Brave Ike(fully SI'd)
SummerXander
Amelia (Atk+, spd-,new)
Hector (res+,spd-)
Cherche (Atk+, Brave+)
Michalis (4*)
...Ike is my favorite character and his Brave form with Urvan is literally the reason I started playing FEH again. Summer Xander was my first 5* I pulled when I returned to the game since launch.  I've put a lot of feathers into BraveAxe+ Cherche, so I'd like her to see some kinda use. I just plain like Hector. Not a big fan of Amelia, but she looks useful.

Fae (4*)
...I like Dragons, okay?

H!Henry (Atk-,Res+)
Deirdre (Atk+,def-)
...I love Armor Emblem, and Henry amuses me. I like Deirdre's design and the only reason I'm not settled on her as my Green Mage is because I'm not sure if it's a waste to give her a Bladetome+ when she has a prf weapon. (Julia is also an option, but I'm less fond of her design.)


Colorless:

Takumi (spd+,hp-, new)
Brave Lyn (Atk+,hp-!!!)
H!Jakob (Atk-, sigh)
...If at all possible, I'm using BraveLyn. Not even because she's top tier, I just really like Lyn and this version of her is super-cool. Jakob is nice because I love Armor Emblem. Takumi is... fine.

Clarine (4*, with lots of SI)
...I don't like most of the Cleric options for one reason or another. And I'm pretty sure only the HorseClerics are considered 'good'. No special attachment to Clarine, but she's what I had when I thought 'I have all these clerics clogging up my inventory, can I feed them to someone to make a super cleric?' I do like Serra as a character though, if that's viable.

I also like any character from FE9, but I think that's 5*-only and like... Soren and Titania, who I don't think are considered that usable?
I like any of the PCs from Smash Bros, too, but... I think outside of Lucina, Ike, and SummerCorrin/Robin (none of which I have), they kinda suck?

Just based on your advice, I'd like to do a Horse Emblem team with a Bladetome.

I'm guessing I could do a BladetomeHenry Armor Emblem team too, but my H!Henry is Atk-, so I dunno how good that is. (probably better than keeping him with his current tome, or going Henry-less Armor Emblem?)

Would BraveLyn be a good candidate for Close Counter?
And perhaps my highly-invested-in Brave+Cherche for Distant Counter? (Not sure why Camilla was the suggestion there? Does she exist ONLY to counter Rein? I'd like to use DC and my Green Flier slot to cover more than one threat, even if it is a major common threat.)

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #504 on: December 01, 2017, 05:26:23 AM »
Brave Lyn's a player-phase unit.  She's about murdering units that get into her range extremely dead, especially if you can lure the AI to split its forces so that she can dispatch a lone wolf.  She's all offense, so Close Counter is only useful if she survives a single hit - which some powerful physical units won't let her.  Furthermore, it'd mean dropping Swift Sparrow, which is key in helping her steal some bullshit kills by pumping her speed into the stratsophere.

I agree with Elf's earlier comment, you want Close Counter on an enemy-phase unit; you bait the enemy with some high-def mage or archer, then mess 'em up on the counter.  Boey is the classic example...  I *guess* you could do Halloween Henry?  I don't know that unit very well (as Elf noted), but maybe.  Otherwise, maybe best to save that Close Counter for now.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #505 on: December 01, 2017, 11:01:04 AM »
Finish my first project character since I didn't really have much purpose for feathers anymore.  Got another 40k and working on Effie next.  She's +6.  Dunno if I want to meme with Carrot Lance or wait for Berkut to come back for his weapon.


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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #506 on: December 01, 2017, 03:34:02 PM »
I finally got some 5*'s from the legendary banner! Ike, and....another Ike. Both with IVs identical to or worse than the one I got months ago. So how I have a +SPD/-RES Ike+2. Not bad, but not exactly what I was hoping for.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #507 on: December 01, 2017, 08:37:50 PM »
Just cleared my first Infernal GHB.

B. Lucina (Def seal, Sol)
M. Marth +2 (Fury 3, Vantage 3 build)
Clarisse (Debuff Misery build. DB3, Poison Strike 3, Savage Blow 3)
B. Lyn (Atk seal)

Lyn and Lucina are aligned to the right. Lyn jumps out to hit the Blue flyer, Lucina Repositions back. Blue Flyer jumps out first, dies to Lucina counter so no Drag Back. Zanbato Cav jumps out, dies to Lucina counter, who is also healed thanks to Sol. Enemies will shift right. M. Marth needs to be right under Michalis here, since positioning is important with the cramped space. Pull Lucina and Lyn all the way back. Red Flyers go south, Michalis advances, attack him with M. Marth who chops off a hefty amount. Clarisse and Lyn kill the front flyer, Lucina Repositions Clarisse out of harm's way. Red Flyer #2 attacks Lyn, but can't double and kill thanks to Lyn's speed. Michalis bites it to M. Marth Vantage. People gang up on the remaining Flyer, and everyone just sort of chills and waits for the last Blue unit to make his way over, just making sure Lucina is in front to meet his first attack, and everyone destroys him after that.

Probably went in with the wrong seals on Clarisse and M. Marth, but I realized that it was more figuring out the right positioning in that corner more than that. Happy to finally beat one of these.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #508 on: December 01, 2017, 08:58:33 PM »
Neat stuff, Eph.  I considered Slaying Axe Raven for my mere +2 Raven, but eh, I didn't have an Amelia at the time I wanted to sac for it.  I guess I can find some Killer Axe loser and get that onto Raven instead then upgrade it, although I'm not 100% how that works...  you can upgrade SI inherited weapons, right?  (EDIT: Seems yes, I can upgrade Lightning Breath+ on Ninian.  Good times.)

Also, belated, but:
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And perhaps my highly-invested-in Brave+Cherche for Distant Counter? (Not sure why Camilla was the suggestion there? Does she exist ONLY to counter Rein? I'd like to use DC and my Green Flier slot to cover more than one threat, even if it is a major common threat.)

Cherche - and almost any Brave unit - is also a player-phase unit.  Brave weapons are half as effective on counterattack, so DC not so good, and having something like Deathblow makes her Brave burst considerably deadlier.  But there's another issue...  Cherche CAN be used to bait units, but she's all Def, no Res.  Which is good, actually, unless she's fighting a Dragon; she can bait blue lances and the like.  But it does mean that she's not useful for baiting mages on enemy phase; she'll just die, even to blue mages.  Camilla, on the other hand, has good Resistance.  She can bait Blue and some Green mages, survive, and Distant Counter their frail physical defense.

Short version:
* Close Counter users want to fight melee units, who are mostly physical (barring Dragons), so you want high Def on a CC user.
* Distant Counter users want to fight ranged units, who are a mix (archers & daggers vs. mages & staves).  So can go either way here, both Def & Res are useful.  But Flyers, specifically, never want to bait archers anyway.  So a high-Def Distant Counter Flyer would be good at baiting Dagger units, who are rare and suck anyway.  Not really worth.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #509 on: December 05, 2017, 07:07:09 AM »
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #510 on: December 11, 2017, 08:04:54 PM »
Berkut Infernal:
First off, for those who didn't play Echoes, this is a pretty good honoring of Berkut's maps.  In one map, he kinda randomly ganks the team and you start extremely split-up in three different areas.  In the next map, he brings along a whole horde of cavalry.  The FEH GHB is kinda a combination of them, so well-done.  (Of course, Berkut is also kinda fast for the time in Echoes...  not so much here.)

Went with Raven+2 (Brave Axe, WoM), BK +1, PA Olivia, and TAR Raven Cecilia.  Cecilia & Olivia are probably replaceable with "any tanky or Triangle Adept Green" and "a dancer who can take a single hit from Berkut if on a defense tile."  Raven probably replaceable by Quad massive damage types (e.g. Cordelia, Brave Cherche).  Olivia & Raven had an S-Support but don't think it mattered.  BK or some really tanky DC user kinda needed though (e.g. DC Joshua or supertank Ike or something).

Anyway, BK & Olivia start at the bottom.  BK goes to the defense tile, Olivia Blaze Dances him, he stays still.  Cecilia starts on the east side and moves south a bit, her whole job is just to distract the other blue lancer, her damage is incidental at best.  Raven does whatever in the Northeast side of the map.  The Firesweep Bowmen & 2 mages hit BK, but BK hurts the mages back; Berkut has nobody in range (important so that he doesn't charge up an ultimate), other blue lancer goes to futiley swat at Cecilia.  BK murders the two mages with the help of Olivia, who ends the turn on the defense tile.  Raven Wings of Mercies in and slaughters the bow-cav guy.  Berkut hits Olivia (leaving her at 3 HP for me), the other lancer can swat at either Raven or Cecilia but won't kill either.  Just cleanup after this, Raven goes on a Blaze Dance / Luna powered killing spree the next 2 turns.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #511 on: December 19, 2017, 05:58:18 PM »
The Christmas banner is the first one where I'm planning to just keep throwing orbs at it until it goes away no matter how well I do, because the exclusive units are that damn good for skill inheritance. Alredy got a neutral Lissa and +ATK/-RES Tharja, both of whom are great. Tharja comes almost completely full-formed, so I need to decide how to build Lissa....Brave Axe/Galeforce seems like the most efficient build in a vacuum, turning her into an armored B!Roy, but I only have Goad Armor and Armor March on greens, so I'm not sure I could build an effective party around that.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #512 on: December 20, 2017, 12:32:23 AM »
I threw the 60 orbs I had at it. No seasonal units, but I did get a +Atk -Def B.Lyn (who I merged my free neutral Lyn into), a 4* Tailtiu (who I didn't have), and a 5* Luke.

No great success, but I can't complain I guess. I might wait to spend more orbs for the next Legendary Heroes banner.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #513 on: December 21, 2017, 09:02:47 AM »
Full Armor banner after I wasted all my orbs on H!Henry and H!Jakob (both ATK-, unfortunately).

Snagged a ChrisLissa on the free pull though. Armor Mage Tharja is really tempting though. I think I'll hold onto these orbs until they announce whatever the new years units will be. Japanese Gacha games go nuts on the new year.

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« Reply #514 on: January 12, 2018, 02:39:37 PM »
Posting this here for non Laggy people.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #515 on: January 12, 2018, 03:29:16 PM »
Posting this here for non Laggy people.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #516 on: January 16, 2018, 07:04:08 PM »
New Years banner annoys me. Not because I didn't get anything, but because we got a Hoshido banner that has...a third Camilla instead of a Ryoma or Hinoka. Camilla you're not even Hoshido. As much as I disagree with it, I can understand why we have 3 Camillas and one Hinoka(the answer is boobs) but why the hell do we have 3 Xanders and 1 Ryoma? Is it too much to ask that we get one Ryoma who isn't wearing the damn chinstrap helmet?

This naturally led to Kier and I talking about a prospective Hoshidian Vacation banner or something to finally let Ryoma and Hinoka get some love. After 10 minutes of throwing memes at eachother on the walk back from the store, here's what we've got:

Tourist Ryoma: Ryoma in khaki shorts, a hawaiian print shirt, sandals with socks, and of course still the fucking chinstrap helmet just for troll value. He's still carrying Raijinto but not using it, he is a mage with his weapon being the same tome that takes photos that Anna keeps trying to get swimsuit pics of people with. Anna is very upset that Alphonse let Ryoma borrow that tome, but she figures once she gets it back she can sell the pictures in it for some cash...except that Ryoma only took a bunch of boring landscape photos instead of any candid snaps of his siblings or any selfies. RIP Anna's ambitions yet again.

Exploration Hinoka: Hinoka in an explorer's outfit complete with Indiana Jones hat, but instead of a whip she'll just brain people with a giant flashlight. It'd count as an axe except I don't think green pegasi are allowed because ~reasons~ or something. Make her a second unit with Distant Counter, the animation for her distant counter is just shining the flashlight in the enemy's eyes.

Dunno whether Sakura or Takimi or Corrin would get the third slot but we all know what the fourth slot would have to be:
<Me> "Of course we'd get Yet Another Camilla for the last spot in the Hoshido Vacation banner because of course we would."
<Kier> "Of course. Clearly this will be Wet T-Shirt Contest Camilla."
<Me> "Spring Break Camilla."
<Both> "Camillas Gone Wild."

But seriously, why no new years Ryoma or Hinoka?
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #517 on: January 16, 2018, 07:17:03 PM »
If I recall, isn't Nohr more popular? It's like Awakening: they got to milk the boob I mean the popular franchises dry. I just want a Holiday Hector damnit!

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #518 on: January 17, 2018, 03:45:13 AM »
Man, I just want Nintendo to hurry up and give us proper Nintendo Crossover Units. I want Ranged Cav Swordsman Link and Red Tome Mario and whatever weird stuff they could come up with for Pit, Palutena, Shulk, and some dumb nonsense option like Kirby. Costumed FE characters would also be acceptable. Like... Illyana in a Pikachu costume or something. Or a Camilla for every Smash Bros character! (the most likely option)

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« Reply #519 on: January 17, 2018, 04:06:38 AM »
I am impressed Eph keeps his max heroes count so low.  Are you not saving hordes of 4* units for potential SI / merges that you probably won't do?!

Gate/Mei, yeah, Camilla should probably not be getting Another Seasonal form on such a super-Japanese/Hoshidan themed event.  She's a combination of low culture big boobs + reasonably liked character, so there you go.  I'd argue that Oboro would be a better replacement than Hinoka - Hinoka is pretty bland and can probably go anywhere when time comes for a seasonal variant, but Oboro naturally pairs with Takumi (just as M-Corrin & Azura) and the event is pretty heavy on "dress up in fancy kimonos" which seems directly up her alley.  A good fit, if you will. 

In the realm of gacha whining, despite thinking Camilla is a bit suboptimal a choice for the spot, gacha saw fit to grant me a zillion Camillas as I searched for Sky Azura.  Sorry Palla.  Pulling Reds, Greens, and a few colorless, I ended up with 6x NY Camilla, 1x Rando-Red (Tharja), NY Takumi, and 2x Rando-Greens (-Spd Soren & Fae).  A ludicrously good rate of getting 5*s (didn't spend THAT many orbs), but Laggy stole all the Airzuras somehow, and she's arguably more necessary for Flyer Emblem.  I then proceeded to spend more money on the Radiant Dawn banner where I've gotten precisely bupkis.  Sigh.

Djinn, that's basically a different game.  I wouldn't mind a Big Nintendo Crossover game (Smash Mobile?) that's ideally non-gacha, but there's so many not-implemented Fire Emblem characters, I'd rather they stick to being an FE game.  If anything, a complaint is that they've followed gacha traditions of crazy seasonal variant stuff too much and not done enough simple "here's a normal version of Character X" from an FE game.

I wonder if they'll ever add "skins" to adjust the look/style of a character but not the stats.  Probably not when they can just slap some new skills on them and sell it for big bucks.

In the realm of FE HEROES PLOT.  I wonder who the Earth "Legendary Hero" will be?  It seems obvious that Laevateinn will be the Fire Legendary hero.  Options include:
* Alfonse & Azura's dad, because maybe they decide not to do 4 hot anime girlz?!
* Veronica?  The end of the new chapter hinted that Surtr & Veronica would soon be fighting each other.  I would argue that un-villaining their original chief villain would be dumb, but whatever.
* Somebody new?!  Welcome RockSmash The Earthy, who is slow and wields an axe?

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #520 on: January 17, 2018, 04:19:41 AM »
Djinn, that's basically a different game.  I wouldn't mind a Big Nintendo Crossover game (Smash Mobile?) that's ideally non-gacha, but there's so many not-implemented Fire Emblem characters, I'd rather they stick to being an FE game.  If anything, a complaint is that they've followed gacha traditions of crazy seasonal variant stuff too much and not done enough simple "here's a normal version of Character X" from an FE game.

...you clearly have not played many gacha games if you think -any- of them have enough restraint to not do cross-promotional gacha.

That said, this is the one game where I'd REALLY like to see it, since I'd love to see these characters translated into FEH's battle system. 'Immersion' be damned. They lost that when they made Christmas Tharja and Bunny Chrom. At least give me some actually cool pandering.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #521 on: January 17, 2018, 05:01:51 AM »
Snowfire: They couldn't even be bothered to edit Kefka's name in that image? Lazy. And, in addition to your list, I imagine the earth hero could also be Bruno or Loki. More likely Bruno, Loki seems firmly entrenched on Team Villain at the moment. I don't know why I watch the game's plot, it's terrible.


Gate/Mei: Hoshidan characters aren't as popular as Norhian characters relatively. I was very surprised when people started talking about an all-Hoshido seasonal banner and was much less surprised when it turned out to not be all-Hoshido.

I mean I'd certainly be down for a seasonal Ryoma or Hinoka too but as a Camilla fan I'd be much happier with them taking the spot of literally anyone else on that banner. <.< And it's only her third form, which just puts her on par with Lyn/Chrom/Xander and behind Lucina, to say nothing of folks who have multiple gender- or age-states.

Also, there is in fact a green pegasus now: Azura.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #522 on: January 27, 2018, 09:01:09 PM »
Lyon Infernal - Man that's a lot of reinforcements.

Don't have a super-detailed strategy for this one, but I beat it with this team:

Camilla (Spring), TA Raven, G Tomebreaker, Goad Fliers
Camilla (NY), Slaying Edge, Swordbreaker, Goad Fliers, Iote's Shield
Azura (NY), Darting Blow, Hone Fliers
Hinoka, Death Blow, Atk+3, Lancebreaker, Hone Fliers

I tried some other things first but there are a lot of anti-cavalry weapons here to make horse emblem unhappy, and the terrain (which is never more than 2 wide) can limit your positioning options... unless you run fliers. So yeah, flier emblem go, with loads of Reposition and Sing to get out of trouble. All offence all the way. I went without healing but it worked well; I only tanked on strong matchups and the biggest damage I had to take was Hinoka withstanding a counter from the sword general. Watch out for Panic Ploy!


Flier Emblem feels like it's gotten really powerful lately (at least if you have the pieces, disclaimer here that both Hone Fliers and mage fliers are still 5* only and mostly seasonal). IntSys keeps taking shots at Horse Emblem (the new trenches in particular), Armour Emblem still suffers from a reliance on Armour March to not feel very clunky, although at least they finally have ranged options. Fliers have everything except daggers and healers now (even a dragon!), make the best use of positioning, and now there's an Iote's Shield seal.

I should really give someone Fortify Fliers at some point, probably to Hinoka when she gets enough SP, as double Hone Fliers isn't really best use of C skills. Although FEH being what it is, a 4:0 ratio of offensive:defensive C skills is... very viable.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #523 on: January 28, 2018, 11:11:47 AM »
Reinforcements show up the more you kill of the initial bunch.  It's kind of important to not kill the two manaketes at the start cause that's when the archer and mage horse show up.

Flying heroes kind of trivialize this GHB with all the open space you got.  I did it with New York Azura, Halloween Nowi, Tana, and Myrrh.  Funny that Myrrh can fit into flying and dragon teams.  Just running around with +spd Nowi Fury/Desperation one rounding basically any red or green unit, sing and do it again.

Myrrh I think is probably the best hero in the game right now thanks to Iote shield seal.  Cancels out her arrow weakness and walls every unit aside from Falchion users (who I haven't seen in months) and Zelgius/Black Knight.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #524 on: January 29, 2018, 12:12:42 AM »
I've managed to put some hurt on Myrrh with a Res-up support with Brave Ike. Which is good because I don't run any Falchioners either.

Got some fun new pieces to play with.

Finally hit an ATK+ unit with Mounted Eirika, so now I've got a pretty solid core Horse Emblem team with BraveLyn(ATK+), Reinhardt(ATK+), and Horserika(ATK+). I think I could toss Flying Azura in there for a ridiculous amount of Player-phase pain and mobility. No defense to speak of though.

Not sure how to build this new magic Eirika. I'm thinking Fury/Desperation would essentially make her a red Reinhardt. Probably need to spend some time properly SI-ing these horse guys now. Reinhardt is still using his base Special...

Anyone have any fun blitz-team suggestions?