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Re: TV Shows
« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2009, 03:19:31 AM »
Scrubs
One of my favourite shows is over...but damn that was great.  As always, Scrubs does wonders with using music to make the moments, and the final sequence (last ~5 minutes or so) was damn perfect.  Season 7 was pretty weak, but Season 8 made up for it a lot.  Sad to see it go, but it a least ended on a high note.  Not much else to say - I think things came to a decent conclusion, and even though something ended up exactly how I expected it to...it was done a lot better than I thought it would be, so it was overall executed well.  Watch this if you haven't already, or I force you at DL Con. 

There was something about the ending sequence that really bothered me: apparently in the future, JD totally forgets about the son he already has in favor of this new one Eliott pops out.

Anyway, Chuck got renewed. WHAT UP.

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« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2009, 03:37:03 AM »
Scrubs
One of my favourite shows is over...but damn that was great.  As always, Scrubs does wonders with using music to make the moments, and the final sequence (last ~5 minutes or so) was damn perfect.  Season 7 was pretty weak, but Season 8 made up for it a lot.  Sad to see it go, but it a least ended on a high note.  Not much else to say - I think things came to a decent conclusion, and even though something ended up exactly how I expected it to...it was done a lot better than I thought it would be, so it was overall executed well.  Watch this if you haven't already, or I force you at DL Con. 

There was something about the ending sequence that really bothered me: apparently in the future, JD totally forgets about the son he already has in favor of this new one Eliott pops out.

Anyway, Chuck got renewed. WHAT UP.


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« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2009, 05:16:43 AM »
Spoiled about the ending of Scrubs?  ;_;

And Dollhouse renewed is good.  I heard Joss had planned for 5 seasons to culminate the plot - maybe he'll get the chance.

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« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2009, 09:52:25 AM »
YES! at Chuck getting renewed. I mean...it's not surprising, since there was both a big campaign to save it, and it's numbers were pretty solid anyways (Same as Heroes, but worse demographics). Also happy, if completely baffled at Dollhouse getting renewed. I can only imagine that Fox's potential pilots for next season were incredibly bleak, because Dollhouse's ratings are complete shit.
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« Reply #129 on: May 19, 2009, 12:45:00 PM »
What's not that you liked about le Supernatural, Mik?

The brothers.  Individually, and especially together.  They annoy the hell out of me.  Every other episode is a recycled plot where they get separated and end up cathartically proving how much they [love/hate] each other.  It also bothers me that women seem only in the show to be victims.  The older brother's voice is very annoying.  Their lying is completely implausable.  Most importantly, ther show is still on the air.
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« Reply #130 on: May 19, 2009, 01:39:38 PM »
What's not that you liked about le Supernatural, Mik?

The brothers.  Individually, and especially together.  They annoy the hell out of me.  Every other episode is a recycled plot where they get separated and end up cathartically proving how much they [love/hate] each other.  It also bothers me that women seem only in the show to be victims.  The older brother's voice is very annoying.  Their lying is completely implausable.  Most importantly, ther show is still on the air.

To be fair, most of the men are in the show to be victims as well.
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Re: TV Shows
« Reply #131 on: May 19, 2009, 01:50:10 PM »
The brothers.  Individually, and especially together.  They annoy the hell out of me.  Every other episode is a recycled plot where they get separated and end up cathartically proving how much they [love/hate] each other.  It also bothers me that women seem only in the show to be victims.  The older brother's voice is very annoying.  Their lying is completely implausable.  Most importantly, ther show is still on the air.

You frame it so badly. The brothers' relationship is what sells it for me. Maybe you just have a completely different kind of relationship with your own siblings?

The show doesn't really have many prominent female characters. And the episodic females have a pretty broad range of personalities. Most of them aren't the 'damsel' types. And the victim count for the occult horrors seems to be pretty evenly spread between male and female. It might be confirmation bias. The show presents itself as 'cheesy horror flick of the week - with some overarching plot sometimes!'. The 'damsels' of cheesy horror flicks are pretty numerous, so it's probably just what you're expecting.

There have been a few too many times where the brothers' lying has been implausible. Especially in later episodes. The early episodes were more 'monster mystery of the week' and so they focused more on how the brothers managed to get by the normal authorities - and it also showed them failing at it a few more times.

By season 3, that storyline was getting old, so they handwave it more often and let the viewer fill in the gaps based on previous shows. Honestly, I think the series is making the right choice there from a storytelling perspective.

I could be a bit biased, too, but that's how I see it. The show plays with all of my favorite tropes for its genre, and it's one of the few series I've enjoyed that -didn't- have a strong female lead(s), so it's something of a rarity for the American shows I like. *shrugs* It comes together well.

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« Reply #132 on: May 19, 2009, 03:57:39 PM »
Also happy, if completely baffled at Dollhouse getting renewed. I can only imagine that Fox's potential pilots for next season were incredibly bleak, because Dollhouse's ratings are complete shit.

As near as I can tell, it was making money for the station despite the low ratings. Combination of good numbers online and on DVD sales and the fact that it's really cheap to produce. The fact that it wasn't dropping off from its leadin shows probably helped too.
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« Reply #133 on: May 19, 2009, 04:46:25 PM »
Which is pretty respectable for a FRIDAY NIGHT DEATH TIME SLOT.
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« Reply #134 on: May 19, 2009, 06:27:09 PM »
Oh, also, Scrubs isn't over. More of a good show is good, I guess, but it feels like a waste of a perfect series finale.
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« Reply #135 on: May 19, 2009, 06:54:14 PM »
Really?  Huh...yeah, a good show, but...mmm.  That is the waste of an excellent finale.  Bah. 

Oh well, hopefully it will be ok.  I don't know...how are they going to end it now?  Bah.
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« Reply #136 on: May 19, 2009, 07:19:41 PM »
Hmm, so it is. Zack Braff, Sarah Chalke and Judy Reyes are leaving the show, though, though apparently Zack and Sarah are going to do guest spots for like six episodes. The rest of the cast are going to be "regulars who can give priority to other projects."

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« Reply #137 on: May 19, 2009, 07:20:53 PM »
Must be a related to the Interns spin-off.

Well, as long as they aren't re-using the same cast members exclusively, that's good.  JD's and Elliot's story is basically done with (as are the rest of the characters), so focusing on them would be kind of pointless.
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« Reply #138 on: May 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM »
You frame it so badly.

Well, yes.  It's because I hate it so much, you see.

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The brothers' relationship is what sells it for me. Maybe you just have a completely different kind of relationship with your own siblings?

Yeah, we get along without really any drama whatsoever.  We certainly don't beat each other up every other episode due to a) unresolved issues or b) demon possession.

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The show doesn't really have many prominent female characters.

Yeah, they all die (literally) in a fire to add a little poignancy to our strapping young lads' story.  Convenient, that.
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« Reply #139 on: May 20, 2009, 02:58:10 AM »
Yeah, we get along without really any drama whatsoever.  We certainly don't beat each other up every other episode due to a) unresolved issues or b) demon possession.

You must lead a very boring life. I feel sorry for you.
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« Reply #140 on: May 20, 2009, 03:13:25 AM »
You must lead a very boring life. I feel sorry for you.

I would say who relieves my boredom, but you already know, don't you?  I'm not sure if this means you should feel sorry for me or vice versa.  But someone's sorry.  I'm quite sure of that.
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« Reply #141 on: May 20, 2009, 03:33:52 AM »
I thought the point of Supernatural was being western-made primetime yaoicest.
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« Reply #142 on: May 20, 2009, 03:48:38 AM »
And this conflicts with OK liking it how, exactly?
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« Reply #143 on: May 20, 2009, 04:09:08 AM »
You must lead a very boring life. I feel sorry for you.

I would say who relieves my boredom, but you already know, don't you?  I'm not sure if this means you should feel sorry for me or vice versa.  But someone's sorry.  I'm quite sure of that.

Random question - how much of the series have you seen?
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« Reply #144 on: May 20, 2009, 12:39:14 PM »
most of season 1 and 2, and snippets of season 3 and 4.  My ex-girlfriend loves it, and has played it all on dvd, often in my presence, to my regret.
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« Reply #145 on: May 25, 2009, 04:55:27 AM »
Must be a related to the Interns spin-off.

Well, as long as they aren't re-using the same cast members exclusively, that's good.  JD's and Elliot's story is basically done with (as are the rest of the characters), so focusing on them would be kind of pointless.

They didn't even MENTION Bob Kelso, which makes me sad, as he is my favorite character.

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« Reply #146 on: May 26, 2009, 12:33:29 AM »
He was off sleeping with whores.

Pushing Daisies: Started, watched through the sixth episode. Good show, if overly saccharine at times (to wit, whenever Ned and Chuck are together unchaperoned). Love the writing, and the style really works.
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« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2009, 02:11:48 AM »
Reaper.


Fuck the CW.  Seriously.  33 episodes over 2 seasons sees the end of an awesome show.

Not sure how I feel about the end of the series - the finale was good in a couple ways, kind of insulting in a few others.  The last 3 minutes...would be good if the series wasn't ENDING >_>

Ok, As soon as I saw Andi bat her eyes after talking to Gladys, I knew she was going to sacrifice herself like that.  The "God works in mysterious ways" thing...like I said, should have happened if the series was continuing.  Leaving it at Sam and Andi kissing after they say that, "we're happy because we're finally, truly, together forever, even if we're damned for all time" would have been the way to end it.  The last bit...ok, has some symbolism, but...bleh.  Didn't particularly seem integrated into the story.  Meant the series ended on a sad frustrating note, instead of a sad yet sappy note.  Kind of sucks it sputtered out instead of ending in a flash, but...

So, I guess overall, it had some awesome points (Sock high on toad, the opening with the Devil having Sam dance like a monkey), but it feels a bit incomplete for a series ender, but that might be because it was a bit abrupt, so I think it overall ended as well as it could (though could have been way better).  Still, the show was awesome, and to see it go is very sad. 

Oh, and, "Ok, we're going to have sex"  *falls over a couch*  Was awesome.  I love how the series plays (...played) those two characters.
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« Reply #148 on: June 27, 2009, 08:03:54 PM »
Finished Pushing Daisies. It was completely awesome, and the lack of a proper resolution is a fucking crime. Watch it anyway, because the style, writing and characters are all top-notch.

Dammit, now I want some pie.

Also watched a bit of Supernatural, and I can see where Jim's coming from. I'm not writing it off yet, but the nigh-exclusive use of women as throwaway victims does grate.
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« Reply #149 on: June 28, 2009, 09:50:42 AM »
Watched the first three seasons of Bones on DVD. The characters work well together, and forensic anthropology/crimefighting is an interesting backdrop to the character development. Funny how that works.

Watched the first episode of Showtime's Dexter.

Fuck that shit is psychologically scarring.