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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3225 on: September 03, 2008, 05:31:47 AM »
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3226 on: September 03, 2008, 09:03:21 AM »
That should not be shocking news.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3227 on: September 03, 2008, 09:06:11 AM »
To Niu: Yeah, screaper hate, good thing GL6 didn't make it to the US... what? Huh, why? What is GL6's plot? Revenge of the Screapers?

The invader, who is mentioned in the database in the sunken ship, appears in GL6. He packed along even more absurd plot hax, making what is already stupid in GL5 even stupider. Like what, Queen Screaper actually didn't die! Time travel hax combined with evil power of capitalism! Oh, and as if people didn't had enough fighting over that stupid dragon orb!!!

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3228 on: September 03, 2008, 12:01:21 PM »
MC, you are awesome.

(Reading that, I thought for a minute you were saying you cleared SA Extra with 5 lives left.  If you did that I would have to cry.  Still awesome though.  SA is fun.)

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3229 on: September 03, 2008, 01:40:08 PM »
To Niu: Yeah, screaper hate, good thing GL6 didn't make it to the US... what? Huh, why? What is GL6's plot? Revenge of the Screapers?

The invader, who is mentioned in the database in the sunken ship, appears in GL6. He packed along even more absurd plot hax, making what is already stupid in GL5 even stupider. Like what, Queen Screaper actually didn't die! Time travel hax combined with evil power of capitalism! Oh, and as if people didn't had enough fighting over that stupid dragon orb!!!

Power of capitalism? I might have to play GL6.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3230 on: September 03, 2008, 02:43:25 PM »
Does the Soppy know Japanese?

Anyway, more GL5: Nu Nahn screaper swarm is whoa. I actually died a couple times there. First time that's happened outside of the occasional mission where an NPC getting killed ends the game. I blame having Randall instead of Krious. (Krious, by the way, has completed his ability board).

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3231 on: September 03, 2008, 02:46:15 PM »
Not quite. Would need to play GL5 first too, but I've scraped a bit of what it's about from here and playing Chaos Wars.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3232 on: September 03, 2008, 02:57:18 PM »
Out of curiosity, which GL characters are in Chaos Wars?

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3233 on: September 03, 2008, 03:04:37 PM »
These are by freaky-deaky CW spellings.

From GL5, Zeonsilt, Corin, Melvina, Chriass.

GL4- Silvernale

GL3- Monica

GL2- Lyell

GL- Jurien
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3234 on: September 03, 2008, 06:30:17 PM »
Crisis Core: I have completed all missions!

...except Minerva.  I'll get to her in a bit!

The cave of wonder ranged from interesting to just plain annoying.  Tonberry spam was cute, but the level and general way Tonberries fight (Teleporting behind you thus frames of invincibility (Read: Real Life Time Wasting)) made the mission overstay its welcome.  The Kactuare or whatever were just stupid, though, probably my fault for not wanting to use too many Phoenix Downs, let alone that late when I already know you can steal 99 from Minerva.

Birds must die.  They're fast, and hit too hard for their own good.  Just really freaking annoying.

Tonberry Jesus = Win, however.  There's no denying that!

Great Marlboro took a while to kill, due to high defenses and HP.  Granted, already had Genji shield so I just had to watch my HP Score (he does actual damage, though hadn't twinked for defense yet, just merely Ziedrich + Genji Shield for damage buffers.)

THe 2nd to last mission was actually neat.  A bunch of normal humans with endure status, thereby showing what happens if you can't flinch them...and they swarm you about 7 at a time.  Uh, yeah, just fun smash fest.  Boss was a bit annoynig.

The Genji Glove is what I expected; Sniper Eye + Brutal.  This is pretty meh compared to the Shield, but...Break Damage Limit is too important this late, so it coming with a bonus makes it a staple.  Similar to how Break HP Limit is similarly invaluable hence why the Genji Armor is on.  Genji shield is hax and is kept on.
Genji Helm is...kind of boring.  AP/MP Cost 0 and Libra?  Meh, I'd care if throwing Ethers/Somas was more annoying than it is, and I still have plenty of Elixirs.

Ziedrich, as a result, got the 4th slot, since it is awesome.  +100 to all important stats = yay!

...and I'm not sure how I'd survive without it; how do FAQs even CONSIDER recommending the Genji Helm over Ziedrich against Minerva?

My first fight with her? Well...

At 170~ in both defensive stats, her opening move was Crimson Flare...which did 99999...keep in mind I have Auto Shell and Auto Protect too.  I had a Phoenix Down on...tossed another...then get hit with her feather attack that did 45kx2 (would have done more but dying didn't let the other hits go through <.<; ), dodged Thor Hammer, then ate another Crimson Flame and died.

(At this point I went to sleep since I just wanted a preview of Minerva, given it was 2:30 AM, but not important!)

Anyway, I'm seeing why it was suggested you get your defensive stats that high.  So I get my Vitality and Spirit up to 250~; I'm only level 96 so I figure some level ups can cover the rest or something.  My attack is maxed, my HP is 75k~ (990% Gil Toss Materia; why Gil Toss? IT just happened to be what was created a while back when I made my 800% HP materia, I buffed that up to 990%.  I'd have gone to 999% but...the amount of SP it costs to get 9% more HP, when you're dealing with damage THIS high, its not worth it), Magic somewhere in 220s~; originally didn't twink this, but then realized (after losing once) that I'd like my magical DMWs (Apocalypse and Meteor Strike mainly; the summons still hit hard enough) to do ACTUAL DAMAGE, so yeah.

My set up is Dispel Blade (Mastered, so its 50% more admage, and has +100 Attack), Curaga (...need to Master this, though, healing isn't my concern, it'd just be a nice extra!), Ultima (Magic Boosting materia!), Gil Toss (w/  990% HP), SP Turbo (Could try to raise it to SP Max, but...SP Barrier killed my SP and didn't seem to do much, so not sure I'll care.  Also, this is my Vit Materia), and a Dispel Materia (yes, redundant with Dispel Blade, but this was formed when I was working on SPirit Twinking somewhere along the way.

Equips are Genji Shield, GEnji Glove, Genji Armor and Ziedrich, as I noted before!

Abbreviated!
Curaga
Dispel Blade w/ +100 Attack
SP Turbo w/ +80~ Vit
Dispel w/ +80~ Spirit
Gil Toss w/  +990% HP
Ultima w/ +55~ Magic

So how did I fare against Minerva?

...she kicked my ass twice.  Well, no, I hold up fine, with all those Phoenix Downs, but...then she starts whipping out Judgement Arrow.

At first it did some value over 60k, when I had 90k~ HP (Break status), figured it was Gravity!  I did notice that I lost Phoenix Down status...and soon, realized I had 0 MP and AP. Um, ow, ok, Elixir, Phoenix Down, back in the fight!

She did this again, I survived again! Same thing!

...then she does it eventually when I had 30k HP...I see a big 60k~ appear...then I remember what it does to Phoenix Down status...you can see where I'm going...

Basically, the fight is coming down to, in the second half, KEEP MY HP AT MAX.  Or at least above 70k.  I was wondering how the game was balancing her for Phoenix Down spam, and well, now I know; she just finds a way to ignore it outright with her big ultimate attack, ick!

Now, the rest of her moves?

With my 250~ defenses, *AND* Auto Protect/Shell?  Here's what I've been seeing!
Note: MY HP is about 75k at max.

Crismon Flare: 45k, fluctuates a bit as I've seen it hit as high as 60k once.  Also not realistically dodgable since its got perfect tracking and NEVER LETS UP until it hits, though, Defend to the rescue (Defend in this game is like 87.5% damage reduction, so yes, its a big deal.)
Krysta: 40k.  Also a pain in the ass to dodge.
Thor's Hammer: 45k.  Not hard to dodge, but it tends to bitch slap fast, and is often chained with other moves.
Photon Feathers: 5k a shot...note this move can hit up to like 15 times depending on your position...
Flash Slash: 15k damage, hits many times, usually enough to murder you, and given the way its animation is, she often likes to fire Thor's Hammer right when this move finishes, if you weren't dead.

I know this isn't all of her moves but yeesh.  They really did go all out with her.  Pretty much everyone of her attacks is a solid 2HKO, and some can OHKO if you're not careful.  Thank God for Phoenix Downs.  Judgement Arrow is just cruel.

I'll beat her eventually, but yeah, she's what I expected; an actually interesting and fun super boss, who is well balanced against the most obscene twinking.

Also, I know some of you are thinking "Why isn't Costly Punch on that list" and well, frankly? Wouldn't change much.  Zack's full combo, which takes about equal time to pull off, does about the same damage to her with Dispel Blade; if SP Turbo gets mastered, it'll do a lot more.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3235 on: September 03, 2008, 09:52:33 PM »
mc, I haven't cleared Normal with anyone except ReimuC and thus I hate you.  Just sayin'.

These are by freaky-deaky CW spellings.

From GL5, Zeonsilt, Corin, Melvina, Chriass.

....freaky-deaky indeed.  Those are almost undecipherable (except Melvina of course).

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3236 on: September 03, 2008, 10:20:09 PM »
You didn't have the 99999 damage punch move? the fight is going to take forever Meep, you'll end up spending more times healing if you rely on SP turbo normal phsyical. Also, she cast this stupid invinci spell that nulls her all damage for a long while....

These are by freaky-deaky CW spellings.

From GL5, Zeonsilt, Corin, Melvina, Chriass.

GL4- Silvernale

GL3- Monica

GL2- Lyell

GL- Jurien

You forget Carmine. Speaking of which, never imagined that Silvernale is the only one who made it in from GL4.

And Zeonsilt is the main character, Corin is the fairy, Chriass is the pirate hat. What, did GL5 fucked up on translating character names. I'll laugh if Chaos War actually is the one that does the translation correctly.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3237 on: September 04, 2008, 12:00:58 AM »
Right. Forgot Carmine. D'oh.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3238 on: September 04, 2008, 12:37:27 AM »
"Zeonsilt" totally baffled me. The others were fairly clear. (Eventually. Chriass = Krious took a moment's thought).

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3239 on: September 04, 2008, 02:03:50 AM »
And Zeonsilt is the main character, Corin is the fairy, Chriass is the pirate hat. What, did GL5 fucked up on translating character names. I'll laugh if Chaos War actually is the one that does the translation correctly.

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If you'll excuse me.

If a game's characters are translated one way when brought over here, other companies localizing games with the same characters SHOULD RESEARCH THIS AND USE THE SAME NAMES FOR CONSISTANCY.  I don't care if it's technically incorrect, but it's stupid to change names if all it does is confuse people.

The characters in GL5 are spelled Haschen (yeah I dunno), Korin, and Krious.  Only the former was retranslated, the others are just mangled spellings.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3240 on: September 04, 2008, 02:04:44 AM »
Zeonsilt, eh? The given name for the main in GL5a is "Haschen". What's the katakana spelling of the main's name, Niu?

Krious/Chriass is... whatever.

Tal: I may buy the GL5 japanese guide and search around for some damage formulas to avoid having to -actually- do damage testing for a stat topic. If the damage formulas actually exist, this could be a much easier method.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3241 on: September 04, 2008, 02:06:38 AM »
Tal: I may buy the GL5 japanese guide and search around for some damage formulas to avoid having to -actually- do damage testing for a stat topic. If the damage formulas actually exist, this could be a much easier method.

That would be much easier, but much more expensive!  But if you're okay with it I am (I mean less work is always good and uh GL5 testing is a bitch).

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3242 on: September 04, 2008, 02:08:52 AM »
Eh, I'm -in- Japan at the moment, so it's actually only about $20-30 more expensive, plus I get a nice little collectible out of the deal.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3243 on: September 04, 2008, 02:14:38 AM »
You should pick up an XBox while you're there. They're only $179 in Japan.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3244 on: September 04, 2008, 02:44:23 AM »
Grim Grimoire- Cute game.  Although if I'd paid any more for it I'd feel ripped off.  I mean, yeah, I had it on "make dragons, win" difficulty, but... still.  Did sometimes feel like they left bits of story off, but that was probably intentional.  Makes some aspects of the game kinda meta, like... Lillet knows she's being watched and is purposefully teasing the player with the lesyay.  Or she's doing Amoretta.  One or the other.... possibly both.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3245 on: September 04, 2008, 02:52:02 AM »
You should pick up an XBox while you're there. They're only $179 in Japan.

Are 360's region-free?

I mean, I'd love to play some Japanese 360 games, but in the end, I buy mostly English games.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3246 on: September 04, 2008, 02:55:34 AM »
Apparently it depends on the region, not the hardware. Some guys at Wikia made a table.

http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Region_Free_Xbox_360_Games

Information's kinda limited because a lot of games that we'd like to see tested (say, BioShock, for example) aren't out in Japan.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3247 on: September 04, 2008, 04:01:35 AM »
Rob: That chart was nice and all... but I'm not sure I understand. Especially with the 'version' thing vs. region.

Also, were there any RPGs even listed?

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3248 on: September 04, 2008, 04:05:21 AM »
"Version" is the release of the game being tested. Ace Combat 6 (NSTC/J) is the Japanese release of AC6, for instance. The three columns after that are whether the game works on a 360 from each region. AC6 has "yes" for American and Japanese machines, but "No" for PAL systems. And so on down the line.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #3249 on: September 04, 2008, 04:31:02 AM »
GL5: Ziekwalt is down, our intrepid hero is no longer dying (but what about Aimee?) and the nations of the wolrd are not (presently) trying to kill each other--but wait, now the Loligoth of Ominousness reappears! I'm just gonna call her the Loo from now on, because it's fitting for such an obvious and regrettable plot device.

Anyway, Rufus/Ziekwalt chapters come next. Went ahead and checked a FAQ to see how much was left, and I gather I'm pretty much in the home stretch now. Guess I need to get busy with the Korin stuff soon.
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