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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #700 on: February 10, 2008, 01:54:11 AM »
Nothing new here. PoFV, Starcraft, a bit of WC3... man, I have The Witcher and Crysis floating around, I just can't be bothered playing them. >_>
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #701 on: February 10, 2008, 01:55:52 AM »
Oh, this reminds me!

What are the Warcraft 3 game names? All I remember is something about ice and something about blood or chaos or something.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #702 on: February 10, 2008, 01:58:57 AM »
Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #703 on: February 10, 2008, 02:02:18 AM »
...Does Reign of Chaos usually have a girl on the front? I thought I remembered it being an orc.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #704 on: February 10, 2008, 02:12:45 AM »
The box came in four different sets, the night elf one had a girl. So did the human one. </rimshot>
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #705 on: February 10, 2008, 02:19:48 AM »
The box came in four different sets, the night elf one had a girl. So did the human one. </rimshot>

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #706 on: February 10, 2008, 02:24:25 AM »
The Scourge one is supposed to be Kel'Thuzad, if memory serves me correctly.  It's the box I got. 
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #707 on: February 10, 2008, 02:37:51 AM »
The Scourge one is supposed to be Kel'Thuzad, if memory serves me correctly.  It's the box I got. 

That's what I was thinking, but all skeletons look alike so ehhh.

Damn, now I want to play again.  Maybe I'll go solo X hero siege.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #708 on: February 10, 2008, 04:03:33 AM »
Pyro: Eh? You know you can buy new units at advanced levels, right? You can make 'em as high as the main's level, I believe. More expensive, but money usually isn't much of a problem.

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The downside is that if you recruit a unit at a higher level, they'll have lower stats than they'd have if you got them at level 1 and raised them up.  I think the penalty's around 1/4~1/5 or so, it's pretty easy to check if you're inclined to do so.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #709 on: February 10, 2008, 04:05:57 AM »
That system sounds a hell of a lot like OB's.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #710 on: February 10, 2008, 04:17:12 AM »
Pyro: Eh? You know you can buy new units at advanced levels, right? You can make 'em as high as the main's level, I believe. More expensive, but money usually isn't much of a problem.

OH GOD DAMMIT!

The downside is that if you recruit a unit at a higher level, they'll have lower stats than they'd have if you got them at level 1 and raised them up.  I think the penalty's around 1/4~1/5 or so, it's pretty easy to check if you're inclined to do so.

That might explain the weirdness with generic plot archers stats.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #711 on: February 10, 2008, 04:22:40 AM »
DMC3: Completed.

Don't have much to say about the game.  Ok, I do, but I won't go on a Meeple Rant (partially cause I lack time and I feel half sick), so instead, I think this will suffice:

Take DMC1, add about 200% more cheese, and improve everything else to various degrees.  That's DMC3!

Also tried a bit of Vergil Mode.  Seems neat how they incorporated a character who plays completely differently than Dante.  Similar to X vs. Zero in MMX games 4 and up, just you know, DMCized <_<.
(well, ok, I know Lucia Mode of DMC2 came first in the series, but its DMC2, so who cares?)
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #712 on: February 10, 2008, 04:23:21 AM »
Also, Lucia plays waaaaaaaaaay more like Dante than Vergil does, so it's still a large step up.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #713 on: February 10, 2008, 08:52:54 AM »
Who was Karthas?  Knee jerk would say human box was supposed to be Jaina.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #714 on: February 10, 2008, 12:21:08 PM »
Pyro: Eh? You know you can buy new units at advanced levels, right? You can make 'em as high as the main's level, I believe. More expensive, but money usually isn't much of a problem.

OH GOD DAMMIT!

The downside is that if you recruit a unit at a higher level, they'll have lower stats than they'd have if you got them at level 1 and raised them up.  I think the penalty's around 1/4~1/5 or so, it's pretty easy to check if you're inclined to do so.

That might explain the weirdness with generic plot archers stats.


The named generics that come with plot PCs are significantly better than storebought generics, yeah. Juno's nereids, for example, and Evil path Shauna's badass pyremage colleagues.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #715 on: February 10, 2008, 03:58:52 PM »
Who was Karthas?  Knee jerk would say human box was supposed to be Jaina.

Edit - Cue NEB Warcraft plot gag.

Karthas is Arthas. 

Pyro: Eh? You know you can buy new units at advanced levels, right? You can make 'em as high as the main's level, I believe. More expensive, but money usually isn't much of a problem.

OH GOD DAMMIT!

The downside is that if you recruit a unit at a higher level, they'll have lower stats than they'd have if you got them at level 1 and raised them up.  I think the penalty's around 1/4~1/5 or so, it's pretty easy to check if you're inclined to do so.

That might explain the weirdness with generic plot archers stats.


The named generics that come with plot PCs are significantly better than storebought generics, yeah. Juno's nereids, for example, and Evil path Shauna's badass pyremage colleagues.

This explain why random Generic Archer that joined had 25 ACT compared to random Generic Archer I leveled having 18 ACT.  Unfortunatly I only learned this after I sunk around 30,000 Rp into Archer I leveled.  Damnation!

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #716 on: February 10, 2008, 06:35:34 PM »
Soul Nomad: Just beat Feinne.

Yaaaay smashing up the game. L33 main is fun. ^_^

WaDdle Fee(Within a Deep Forest):

What? That's how I remember the name.

Anyways, completed.

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I did beat it in three hours, though, counting the part where I got seven Balls into the game, ditzed out, didn't save, and had to redo all seven. <_< Short game.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #717 on: February 10, 2008, 08:33:07 PM »
FE9 - Up to Chapter 26. Playthrough has gotten very challenging due to the crazy low levels, a few mediocre units (SHINON), and few supports. Good fun.


Phoenix Wright - Finished this at last.

Mmm. Well let's see. I completed the first three cases in a week or so, then took a month to do the last two, which is a testament both to the increasing length and declining quality of the later cases.

Overall review... hmm.

Gameplay - Honestly, the less this got in the way, the better. Investigations I found pretty silly, either they were a fetchquest chain or they were an annoying list of things you had to do and you couldn't advance the game until you completed them all. Nothing is more fun than having the game stalled as you try to find that one part of the background you forgot to examine. Fortunately FAQs exist, without them I would like this game much less.

This isn't to say investigations are without value, because they give a chance for the writers to add some good plot/character stuff in there with the dialog. Just they are bad for gameplay.

Court stuff is much better, you actually have to puzzle things out in a reasonable way. Still not the reason I play the game, but it's not a chore. Though occasionally the game got a bit silly, like that one time you had to purposefully get held in contempt of court because THERE WERE NO CONTRADICTIONS even though I could think of several reasonable ones. Also I sometimes presented something for the wrong reason, or presented the wrong thing for the right reason (e.g. when they want you to present a certain weapon in case 5, I presented the broken weapon itself, when they want you to present the photo of the weapon from before it was broken. I can kinda see this, but shouldn't they clue you in if you're so obviously on the right track?).

Basically the game doesn't win any points here, but it's not the focus, so that's all right!

Music - I like the music that plays when you have someone cornered. Because it's very satisfying psychologically. Overall, though, very little with actual value that I expect to listen to outside the game.

Visuals - Pretty solid actually. PW is all about its characters, and for the most part they had pretty vibrant designs which helped make them memorable. Also a crazy number of poses, and the last few poses used by the villains are always needlessly over-the-top. <_< Good times.


Okay, stuff that matters. ***SPOILER WARNING*** from here on.


Characters - The game freaking rules at these. Almost everyone is quirky, memorable. As mentioned earlier, the art helps, but the majority of it's in the writing. Both the core cast and the case-specific witnesses were, in general, excellent. In particular, some examples:

Phoenix himself is pretty much written as a self-insert, but he's amusing and charming enough. I liked how, despite him being a bit of a SI, he still gets owned on a fairly regularly basis. Besides that, bounces off the other characters well and always has amusing internal dialogue. Being about the only person who notices how bananas the other characters in his world are helps.

Maya's probably a bit of a weak link, and she's not bad. Sometimes very amusing, even. Gets tossed into a bit of a damsel role a bit too often though.

Edgeworth starts out as a bit of a generic loser. This only makes his transformation into the repeated butt of jokes ("YOUR NAME. PLEASE." "It's that... that... THING!") in later cases ingenious. After that he settles down as a reasonable serious character whose straight-laced demeanor contrasts nicely with most of the side characters, and who is generally able to keep the serious plot moving otherwise, since once you learn more about him his motivations generally make sense.

Gumshoe was also pretty consistently great. I'm not sure how they managed to keep him a fresh and funny fall guy through the duration of four cases, but it worked. I guess it helps that his relationship with Phoenix generally changed a few times over the course of the game, from a hindrance to... well, no, I'd never call what Gumshoe does helping, precisely. But darned if he doesn't try. Also "Hey! That's MY endearing personality trait, pal!" is one of the few lines that got me to laugh out loud. (Not that there weren't plenty of chuckles elsewhere.)

On the subject of complete cluelessness, the Judge was also pretty good. Not Gumshoe level, mind, largely because he had to be that way so that you would do all that work. On a serious note it's kinda scary that this guy gets to choose who lives and who dies, but that's far from the most fucked up thing about the PW justice system anyway. <_<

For more case-specific people... Larry Butz is foppishly amusing and a neat counterpoint to both Phoenix and Edgeworth. Jake Marshall is win with the constant cowboy references. Ema I generally found an improvement over Maya ("Note: The judge had to think about it first.") in her raw nerdishness, though she too got a little too damsely towards the end? And pretty much the entire cast of Case 3 ruled - Cody Hackins the fanboy who brings his samurai sword to court, Wendy Oldbag and her delightful combination of Grandpa Simpsonesque old person caricature and venomous surliness, Sal Manella the living internet reference, and Dee Vasquez' precisely aimed belittling of those around her (poor Edgeworth).


Plot - Also generally worked very well. For all that the games are largely comic, they spin a good yarn overall, and untangling it is a lot of fun. The game provided me with a lot of "Oh, THAT explains it!" moments which you'd expect out of a good mystery novel, so getting them in a light-hearted game like this was an unexpected perk.

My one objection to the game's plot is it got a slight bit... hmm. The last two cases got convoluted to the point where the motives of the villains just... didn't make much sense. I'm still a bit baffled by Case 5. (Spoiler warning again.) The villain... killed someone so that he could make it look like a 14-year old girl killed him accidentally and use blackmail to exploit her sister with this? It's too large a stretch to be plausible, which kinda ruined the "aha!" effect when the truth came out, see above. (The whole plot would have made more sense if Ema actually had killed Marshall, I think - felt like the writers just didn't have the guts to go through with that.) Case 4 similarly suffered from von Karma's attempts to frame nine-year old Edgeworth as a major plot point (like who fucking cares?) and the whole last-second case at the end felt somewhat tacked on.

But yeah, despite the longer paragraph on the bad than the good there, I have to praise the game in this department. Certainly beats most RPGs!


Writing - Rules and is win. Largely touched on already, but the snappiness of the dialogue was just terrific. The game benefits immensely from being translated by someone who knew what he/she/they were doing - the game is very in touch with pop culture and makes you believe there are actually real people talking. Except for the part where they are impossibly quirky, but that's part of the charm!


Not sure what I think of the game overall. 7-8/10 area? Lots of fun, but needed to take some extra steps to really wow me. Better gameplay? An execution of its storytelling that is flawless rather than very good? I'm not sure. Regardless, looking forward to more of this when I get around to it.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #718 on: February 10, 2008, 09:55:45 PM »
Soul Nomad: Started. I like some of the Gig stuff, but the gameplay is turning me off right now. I'm not sure how to experiment and it seems pretty painful with the whole rando-room thing. If I want to set up a new squad to test it out, I'd have to raise them from scratch, which is an unappealing concept. Squad design is neat, but it feels like they gave you just enough possibilities and not enough freedom in design to make it frustrating. I'll play more later and see how I feel.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #719 on: February 11, 2008, 01:35:29 AM »
God Of War:  Started this mostly because now that I wasn't obsessively playing Half Life or Super Mario Galaxy, I figured I should do something instead of StumbleUponing all day when I don't have homework (That and I'm pretty bored with RPGs).  Pretty fun game, though I severely underestimated how hard it is.  I wonder how far I'll be able to get before having to turn the difficulty down to Normal.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #720 on: February 11, 2008, 01:38:56 AM »
Probably when you get to the final boss chain. It's a bit of a pain in the ass.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #721 on: February 11, 2008, 01:50:57 AM »
Yeah, that's what stopped my roommates (who are way better at Action games than I) from beating the game on God mode, so...  Though, if all else fails, for that I'll be a pussy and turn the difficulty down to Easy so I don't have to replay the game.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #722 on: February 11, 2008, 05:16:20 AM »
AWDoR:  Replaying Campaign.

P3:  Powerleveling myself and Temp PC in Monad.  Highlights include gaining 65535 experience in one fight.

WaDF:  7 balls.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #723 on: February 11, 2008, 05:23:33 AM »
Replayed SH2. It rules. Shocking? Not particularly.

DMC3: Very Hard mode, as DMC1 Dante, just beat the horse boss (level...11? 12? Can't exactly recall). Bosses are pain. This mode pretty much forces you to learn every situational weakness each boss has and abuse the hell out of it, which is fun but makes for a whole lot of deaths before I get the hang of each one.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing: 2008
« Reply #724 on: February 11, 2008, 05:47:50 AM »
WaDF: Started yesterday, finished today. Neat little game.

Megaman ZX: Up to the final, who is a whore. Specifically, the third phase of the second form is a whore. The first form and the first two phases of the second are pathetic. But that third phase...dammit, that purple move/jump nerfing bullshit is enough to make it severely painful.

FE10: Up to Ch1 Endgame. Edward and Nolan are both awesome, even though Ed needs to dodge as often as the numbers say he should instead of nearly never. Still doubling damn near everything is cool. Micaiah just hit level 20 the fight before, so moving Paragon from her to Sothe, and prolly gonna slap Tauroneo's Resolve on her now. Uber Spoilarz PC#2 is made of win and awesome, etc.
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