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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #75 on: February 11, 2019, 11:55:28 PM »
Mobile Games are the future.  Even real games are now just vehicles into driving into them.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2019, 12:14:15 PM »
Romancing SaGa 2:

So I picked this up again due to Shun playing the awesome-looking new Romancing SaGa mobile game that has yet (if ever) to be translated. He kept telling me about this game and I got intrigued.

I finally finished it and... wow, this sure is a SaGa game. And even by SaGa standards, it is pretty weird and like nothing else.

If I were to do a write up of RS2, it would probably start with something like “If you ever played a faulty copy of FF1 and couldn’t save your progress, so you kept trying to beat it as quickly as possible before your mom forcibly turned your console off, then you know what it’s like to play Roguelikeing SaGa 2...”

And it would end with “...but once the game is firing on all cylinders it is a treat to behold and there’s no other game out there that can give you that unique experience.”

...The middle bits would be incoherent blubbering about quest triggers and character recruitment and incomprehensible battle formulas. It has a weird rogue legacy-esque multi-generational plotline about ruling an Empire and passing down skills and abilities as you direct history and gain the fealty of many different clans, families, kingdoms, and even some magical races like Salamanders and Mermaids (who can also become Emperor/Empress if you're determined!).

It is strange and convoluted and I expect exactly zero people to convinced to play a SaGa game at just my recommendation, but if you are a SaGa fan and thinking of checking out one of the few entries in the series available in English, then it's definitely a unique game with some seriously interesting mechanics. Though it is plagued by the usual SaGa issues of being painfully opaque and requiring a FAQ just to understand the FAQs so you can play the game effectively.

The new remastered version for Switch does have a nice new feature that lets you restart the game from the beginning with all of your stuff/learned skills/money/etc. so that you can just run around and experiment freely when you first boot up the game, then throw it down in frustration, only to pick it up a year later with all that progress you made on your experimental run to make it feel less wasted on a restart. (Now that you've taken the time to smartly research the game's mechanics and gameflow better.)

Again, a highly recommended game for everyone! (disclaimer: not really for everyone, but absolutely it will the kind of game that makes its target audience hold it up as their Game of All Time)

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2019, 03:44:22 PM »
I think I could file off the serial numbers of that post, change a few words here and there, and recommend La Mulana 2.  So let's pretend I did that.
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2019, 05:00:18 PM »
Djinn just finished RS2?
I am disappointed.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2019, 03:18:59 PM »
Yeah, apparently I'm working through the Romancing SaGa games backward, from least translated to most. Next time, I'll be taking on RS1/Minstrel Song.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2019, 11:04:55 PM »
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2019, 10:24:52 PM »
Kingdom Hearts III- I finished this last monday (2/11 for my own purposes), but due to uh post-release patches because modern development practices I had to eat ~half my monthly wifi data getting the proper endings installed so I haven't had a keyboard to do this justice.

In that time I've been trying to parse out how someone would like the series and not love this game, because it seems like a completely nonsensical position, and indeed a lot of the complaints feel... completely off?  Like a common one is that the Disney worlds feel pointless and um... I hate to break it to some people but that's always been true, and indeed I felt like the KHIII world set was a lot more considered and contributed more thematic heft than any previous game.
Now that said the more nuanced take of "I didn't like that half the worlds recreated shot-for-shot scenes from the source movies instead of making new spins" which... I will grant you Frozen all day, but... pretty much just Frozen?  Let It Go didn't add much to the game, but replaying Disney.txt from Tangled?  Nah, that scans.
And I think you can tell Pixar's liaisons were really into this because Monsters and Toy Story worlds were aces.

I should actually go more into how the series has used world selection, because I've had Thoughts, but basically I think only Pirates really feels extraneous?  It does go with Nomura's stated theme of "Resolution"... but not with the actual throughline of the plot (belief/love giving things life and making impossible things possible, although even Pirates starts in Davy Jones' Locker...) nor with Sora's character journey (KH1's worlds are typically about, or the original movies were about, the joy of exploring new worlds.  KH2's were largely about coming into your own and rising to the occasion to be a hero.  KH3... is about being a hero and inspiring others to meet your example.)
And while you can certainly say that Sora's always had a clear character and did a Campbell journey in KH1, KH3 has a handful of scenes that are the first time I felt like he really reckoned with himself and his own identity.  Like... I don't want to go into tiny text here, but there's a moment Riku says "You don't really believe that".  And that entire scene, and Sora's growth from it, is probably the biggest moment he's had in the franchise I think, with POSSIBLY the exception of jabbing out his heart in KH1.

But honestly I will grant people one thing: there is a HARD dividing line between Disney Fun Times and The Real Plot in this game, in a much more unbalanced way than previous entries.  Like the plotty plot during most of those is almost 50% "setting up KH4" stuff that I'm ignoring for purposes of this writeup, and the rest is often summation/setup for the plot mechanics that will go into the emotional beats in the end.
But thematically and emotionally it always scans.  This game is about resolution in the sense that it's bringing everything down to exactly one dangling thread of what came before Sora's fate and finishing off the rest.

So at last here's the important part.
After softening you up with the above-mentioned "You don't really believe that" and Sora really pulling it off, the entire rest of the game is the most finely crafted emotional whiplash I have ever seen and I adore it.  The rest of the game from that point is using complete awesome  to soften you up for melancholy, melancholy to set you up for reclaimed identities, reclaimed identities to set you up for the sort of brilliantly obvious retcons that just WORK emotionally even if maybe don't question them too long, followed by a one-two punch of the actual 'resolution' the entire game was building up to.  The reunion of the Trios.  "One day, I will make this right."  "Many people made my return possible"  It's okay to cry: you will not be erased.
Even as Nomura gonna Nomura with how absurd some of the twists and turns getting to those points were (Like fuck, the mechanics of the immediate before and after of the place where hearts return is nonsense), that's the point.  I mean yeah there's a final boss after that.  But those were the point.
Also not gonna lie these slightly-toned-down final boss tag teams, as a more-or-less bosh rush to end out the game is just... *chef kiss*

Which also is the only other thing worth saying: I want every.  SINGLE.  Kingdom Hearts game from now until time stops to give me Remy.  You can cut the cooking minigames if you want, just make him and Scrooge a travelling crew.  It's fine.  It's all fine.

For a long time I've sorta punted on thinking about the original Kingdom Hearts.  While I think I do like it more than KH2 in a vacuum, it's aged very badly mechanically and a lot of why I ranked it among my absolute favorites is because it most distilled the essence of why I loved this series, the precise way it mixed nonsense, cheese, Disney, Square, and everything else.  KHIII, to my everlasting surprised, has at last captured all of it in a smoother, more emotive, and more lasting way.  So... yeah.  Hello #3.
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2019, 01:23:13 AM »
Kingdom Hearts 3:

So... I don't really consider myself a Kingdom Hearts fan, despite playing all of the games and being pretty up-to-date on the lore. It's never quite clicked with me on any level, and I always kind of played them out of morbid curiosity of how weird and avant-garde the plots could get.

That said, I really liked KH3!*

*with some caveats

The Gameplay, pacing, music, art direction, Disney Worlds, and general narrative thrust are all outstanding. The plotbeats are surprisingly easy to follow and un-avant-garde this time around, which is kinda nice. Nomura might have hired some editors!

*My main issue with the game is rooted in KH2, actually...
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There's the whole concept of Sora's broken heart, which became Roxas, who had all these experiences, but Sora couldn't live while he was out there living his best life. So Roxas agreed to rejoin Sora. Likewise with Kairi and her Nobody, Namine, who very explicitly wanted to return to Kairi's heart. Game frames all of this through the lens of 'completing a broken heart' or 'accepting all sides of yourself' in a metaphorical sense.

Flash forward 10 years and Roxas ends up BY FAR one of the popular characters in the franchise (having a personality and some pathos helps that).

KH3 SPOILERS
And KH3 is basically all about bringing him (and the other Nobodies) back to life as separate people who can live freely and with full hearts of their own. (They reframed the reunion-merge as 'giving the broken hearts time to heal', so I guess now they can move on and become a Real Boy)

They even strongly repudiate KH2's themes under the idea of 'I thought since she originally came from me that everything was okay now that we're one again, but it's not. She should be able to live her life, feel the sun on her skin, etc. etc.'

So KH2 framed its themes as 'accepting all sides of oneself' in a metaphorical sense, but KH3 takes a VERY literal approach of 'oh shit, we basically unpersoned a sentient being, that's a bad look, fuck metaphor, let's bring 'em all back!'


And the disconnect between the very metaphorical reading of KH2 and the painfully blunt literal reading of KH3 bothers me.

For all that I kinda agree that KH2's literal reading is uh... an awful message given the sociopolitical landscape these days and actual un-personing going on in the world and I love that KH3 is schmultzy and happy all around. I guess I'm happy it's willing to look at its past mistakes and move forward, but the shift from metaphorical reading to literal was jarring.

Good game. Play it. Skip KH2.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2019, 01:41:40 AM »
I felt like the KHIII world set was a lot more considered and contributed more thematic heft than any previous game.

I really like how all the worlds this time (possible exception Olympus) really tied in with the theme of hearts. Davy Jones's heart, Anna's heart, etc. World selection was really excellent.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2019, 04:41:33 AM »
Good game. Play it. Skip KH2.

Lies, KH2 has the best gameplay in the series okay.
Only DDD came close.

KH3's end game boss rush is nothing short of a disgraceful disaster after KH2 has set the bar for the Organization fight so high.

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« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2019, 06:31:52 PM »
Ys 8: nearly done with my inferno, no healing challenge.  Beat the true final boss, now all that's left is the final bonus dungeon and its out-of-place smooth jazz background music.  The bosses in the bonus dungeon pale in comparison to the true final boss though, so I'm not anticipating any major problems.  Beating the two phases of this boss without healing (or status cures, which proved to be quite challenging to manage in phase 2!) is among the most difficult things I've done in a videogame.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2019, 08:41:14 PM »
I play things, really! Just kinda bouncing around between games as I do.

DQ11- Old Man and Kung Fu Princess get. While Jade's identity was easy enough to guess, I did not call what Rab's relation to the plot was. They also preeeeetty cleanly outshine the other characters at least right now. Rab can replace the twins on his own, leaving Hero/Rab/Jade and one of either Eirk or Sylv seeming like the optimal party for most situations.

I have also slain a squid and am currently dealing with the creepiest mini medal collecting king yet.

Infinite Adventures- The ramp in this game is so very real. Unlocking new skills really adds to the gameplay experience in bigger ways than I'm used to EO likes doing it. I really can't recommend this enough for EO fans.

Tokiden: Kiwami - Pulled the vita back out to play an actiony thing, and this has scratched the itch nicely. Sadly one of the few games that have a Fist type weapon that I just can't use. Too slow, too cumbersome, too lacking in mobility or defensive options. Knives, Naginata and Rifle are my usual go to weapons, basically I have a different weapon for each element(though lacking a good Water one so far). If I don't know what to use I go knives, super fun to just jump on a giant oni's head and combo it into ribbons.
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2019, 11:29:10 PM »
DQ11- Old Man and Kung Fu Princess get. While Jade's identity was easy enough to guess, I did not call what Rab's relation to the plot was. They also preeeeetty cleanly outshine the other characters at least right now. Rab can replace the twins on his own, leaving Hero/Rab/Jade and one of either Eirk or Sylv seeming like the optimal party for most situations.

One of the things I enjoyed the most about DQ11 is how, once you have the ability to respec and enough money to disregard the cost, characters' individual builds and utility is constantly shifting around as you gain enough points to pull off X, Y, or Z build with them.  So whoever's benched, they'll be back in time.
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2019, 04:40:36 AM »
Ateleir Ayesha:

  Would rather be playing than writing about it but hey, need to let the controller recharge now and then, deal with real life, invest in real relationships, and all those other things.  I enjoy the item crafting and time management more than the combat side.  Randoms are the sort of things I'd rather avoid except to go for exploration bonuses.  While I started off being fairly aggressive with the attack items, it quickly shifted towards wanting to keep my item use down since there's a cost in time or money to replace them.  Level ups feel so empty though it turns out they do add up.
  Library was the first big difficulty spike for me.  Earlier areas I was able to evade encounters with little trouble or just overpower the opposition through stat dominance.  This was a faraway location with a compulsory fight as well as narrow passages and enemy density high enough that I was guaranteed to run into a few.  Escape isn't easy like, say, Final Fantasy 4.  Equipment hadn't improved for a long time either which made the beatings hurt more.

  Soundtrack is excellent.  Not much to add in the way of specific comments.  Having multiple battle themes for randoms is welcome.

  Cast is mostly friendly though sometimes mixed in with eccentricity.  It felt surprising the times where a character is being mean or jerky given how infrequent of an occurrence it is.  I had looked up a bit about Ayesha's personality before playing the game.  Game lives up to my hopes of embracing its girly-girl protagonist.  There's something very endearing about Ayesha's personality and mannerisms.  Being cute helps too (her character design is what got me to check out what the series was about) though for anyone who has seen lots of anime, cute characters are probably a dime a dozen.  I'm not going to peruse a script dump to check but I think Vayne Aurellius says "I'm sorry" more than Ayesha.  There's a part of me that wants to gush about what a great character she is; will restrain myself from going on

  Paying a little more attention to synthesis results now.  I'm giving notice to undesirable effects on items and equipment and adapting my usage to them.  Fill Stomach items I only use for out of battle recovery; being stunned is bad but since it's an in-battle effect only.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2019, 08:54:59 AM »
KH3 - finally got the A rank on Schwartz Geist. For hours I was like what did I do wrong? When I couldn't get the A Rank?
I was dishing out over kill damage and finished it off its first form when the multiplier is still x3 and ends the fight with no damage bonus. Just what went wrong?

And the problem turns out the boss does not have enough HP to grind enough points out of it to hit the A rank.
I have to purposely drag out the fight to grind the points on the grunts to get enough points....

Gaaahhhh, why does the gummi ship this time kept on having stupid design like this!?
I actually like the gummi ship this time. But, ugh, stop it with the crap like this.


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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #90 on: February 26, 2019, 01:58:23 AM »
@Niu, there's an ability which gives you extra points until the first time you get hit.

KH3: "Finished" the game by which I mean I beat Rutger Hauer. Still have a million minigames and such to do. Almost 100% on gummi ship stuff, just need the blueprints.

Good game. Combat/Flowmotion was smoother than in previous games I think. Voice acting, with few exceptions, was outstanding. Story was the usual Nomura nonsense, but the actual dialogue writing was top-notch. Characters banter with each other a lot and it's quite clever.

As I mentioned before, I think the worlds chosen were great for the storyline, and the individual plots for them worked well.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #91 on: February 26, 2019, 07:31:22 AM »
I would argue that flow motion isn't as good as DDD.
The invisible wall is a lot worse this time. The wall climbing didn't work as well either.
But I guess that's the natural down side when you have bigger maps with more complicated designs.

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« Reply #92 on: March 01, 2019, 06:20:00 AM »
The Last of Us:  It came with the used PS3 I bought so giving it a try.  It's the sort of thing that I can only handle for about 15-20 minutes in a sitting.  No manual so the gameplay reminds me of the Dragon's Lair arcade game in its setup.  Post pandemic world doesn't appeal to my preferences.  I made it past the prologue at least (after dying a few times).  Will give it a few more tries but right now leaning towards giving it up.  Doesn't seem to be the sort of setting and gameplay that appeals to me and fighting the camera isn't improving my perception of this.

Atelier Ayesha: further adventuring in the land of Dusk

  Forgot to mention in my previous update that I picked up several useful adventuring upgrades within what felt like a short period.  The game also feels slow paced and it was a rather long time from start to first treasure chest.  (FF8 actually has a longer period by the metric and that's with treating the boxes in D-District Prison as treasures but isn't really an even comparison.)  Whereas earlier in the game, I was pursuing possible leads and helping out other characters along the path, the game has revealed a definite goal of seeking out glowing flowers.  First visit to Salt Desert resulted in a party wipe with little progress.  It lives up to the salt part all right, in addition to the salt that's found there.  Scurried away to chase down some of the other leads which are hopefully less suicidal.  Unlocked a base at Hornheim so the trip down there wasn't a total bust.  It was a bit of a headscratcher how to do it and still not sure what the actual trigger is.

  Was reluctant to let go of Ayesha's starting weapon even though there's no mechanical benefit to hanging on to it.  But it's iconic (in the artwork) and it's cute.  Far different from my usual pragmatism.  Felt better about letting it go after getting 3 more from drops.
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« Reply #93 on: March 01, 2019, 10:13:32 PM »
DMC5's coming out soon so I figured I'd dip my toes back into the franchise.  Previously I'd beaten 1 and played a couple levels of 3 but that's it.  So I'm starting from 1 and we'll see where it goes from here.

DMC1: haha thought this would be easy since I think I'm pretty good at action games now.  Not...so much.  Getting back into the kinda janky mindset of 3d environments with fixed camera angles takes some work, and managing those extra lives ain't a walk in the park either.  Currently up to the black knight.  I don't think it's gonna be a serious impediment but the way the game works is pretty unforgiving, so just wiping twice is a bit more than I want to deal with.  Looking forward to getting past this and moving on to DMC3.  It's really weird how there was never a DMC2 tho.
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« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2019, 03:10:36 AM »
KH3 - Nomura spoilers

Sora vanished at the end of the ending from the rebound of using the Power of Waking inporperly. Such as the time rewind after the TerraNort wipe etc. Sora arrived into that world in the Secret Movie after he vanished.
Nomura hinted that world is a Wonderful World. The black coat there is Master Sugita Tomokazu himself, the real chess master behind everything.

FF characters are missing they ran out of place to put them in. The new character models are already made and everything. So the development team is pretty angry that they can't put them in game.

The nameless star is a brand new character, thus she cannot Marluxia's sister.
And the Final World is a world right before death. Connected to the Garden of Waking

The Stairway to the Heaven is built on top of of the ruins of Daybreak town. The building in the ocean during the Xehanort fight is indeed what's left of Daybreak Town.

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« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2019, 02:41:20 AM »
Suikoden V - Finished in about 45 hours. Ended up not getting all 108 stars, because Norden died in an army battle and I was like “fuck it, this is war”. I ended up also losing Zegai later in the game, which was irritating because he is the skills tutor. I decided to skip some annoying recruits (Richard/Genoh, and a lot of the useless characters like Shun Min and Retso) and more importantly I decided to go for the Roy path.  The Roy path has the Prince not taking Lucretia’s advice and deciding to defend the castle instead of running away. First of all, as Snowfire pointed out, it is debatable to whether this is actually a bad plan. Anyway, the game warns you four times??? to make sure you know what you are doing. It’s really striking because Roy basically saves you from making a really fucking dumb decision by going out and challenging Childerich to a duel, and then gets shot with a trillion arrows once you win the duel. To top things off, Childerich kicks Roy’s body into the river, like the dick he is. I feel like the Roy path really makes you hate Jidan and Childerich even more than you already do.

Otherwise, I generally enjoyed the game. I think I like Sialeeds and Georg even more on the second run now that I am older; both are excellent serious characters while still have a human/funny side to them. The writing is as good as I remembered. The gameplay … well I FAQed deep twilight forest, skipped most of Doraat (you can finish this dungeon in like ten minutes if you skip everything, you can go back and get it later), and generally overtwinked my people to crush the game efficiently. Team was Prince/Lyon/Miakis/Cathari/Georg/Zerase/Bernadette (there’s not much overlap between Lyon and Miakis which is why I listed seven folks). It’s definitely an experience worth revisiting, as long as you take care to make the gameplay as painless as possible. Reading about the abilities in the war battles also helps them be more enjoyable.

Should I play Suikoden IV next????
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« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2019, 05:22:39 PM »
DMC1: Beat.  I beat this when it first came out but somehow had completely forgotten the entire final boss sequence, which is kinda funny because the boss' design was really cool.  Game definitely drags in the second half but it was a pretty breezy 8ish hours, not counting game overs (which I had like three or four of).  Remarkable how well they had the combat figured out for a first entry.  I wonder if they would have had the guts to make enemies so tanky if they hadn't originally been planning on a RE game?

DMC2: "The internet has a way of piling on. I'll give it a chance.  Maybe it's not as bad as people say."  Friends, it is as bad as people say. (Based on about two hours of play.)

DMC3: Guys stop me if you've heard this before but the game's awesome.  Nearly done with it, prolly twoish missions left?  The plot and gameplay mesh perfectly, and both the cutscenes and the gameplay have been a joy.  I really appreciate how, no matter how inhumanly awesome and self-absorbed Dante is, the game finds these hilarious ways to knock him down a peg - it's endearing when it could easily have been insufferable.  Boss fights are excellent, beating up on randos hasn't gotten old yet.  It's kinda weird to me that the human-size bosses have been easier in general than the big boys - years of Dark Souls games tell me this should not be so.
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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #97 on: March 06, 2019, 03:11:48 AM »
Fire Emblem Fates - Revelation

Beat Lunatic. I did almost no paralogues; ended up getting Shigure and Asugi for extra support near the end. Neither really did much, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered and called this an official No Paralogues run.

Once enemies promote, their damage becomes very high and basically stays there. The highest-atk enemies such as berserkers and the final boss have OHKO to average defences (rank Generic Revelations Lunatic Berserker!). It's interesting how all the routes take a bit of a different approach to their difficulty - Birthright goes for overwhelming numbers, Conquest for tricky enemy setups, and Revelation for stats, mostly Atk. Rev might end up the easiest of the three at the end, though Birthright's midgame is certainly easier than anything in Rev.

Not much to note with units, I generally used many of the usual suspects. Of note, Xander died during the replicate map, and doing things without him is unfortunate. Camilla and Ryoma were invaluable as usual. My respect for ninjas slowly grows as time goes on, because shuriken are such ridiculous weapons.


Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle

Replayed this for stat topic purposes but also it just being generically good. This time I did all the challenges - some get pretty tough but I feel like I know this game really well so I was clearing most things on the first try anyway (certainly not everything though!).

Tier list time!

R.Luigi > R.Peach > R.Mario > Peach > Luigi > Yoshi > R.Yoshi

Rabbid Luigi is extremely difficult to kill (and to top it off his barrier is the only one which stops status, sometimes invaluable) and can often become an outstanding healer, and at various points in the game has super-reliable stone (including the aftergame which gives him 100% stone for some reason. Fanboys). His biggest weakness is that he's unimpressive when he can't use Dash (giant enemies, or enemies starting outside of his range) but oh well.

Rabbid Peach has great dashes and good healing which alone wouldn't get her to #2 but oh hey sentries are kinda amazing when you're fighting Ziggies or other villain-sight enemies and the rest of the time they're just the best secondary weapon.

Rabbid Mario and Peach are cut from the same cloth. They aren't as suited for just any battle as the starting team but they mow down enemies like nobody else, sometimes you just want offence offence offence and they deliver. Rabbid Mario has the edge because being a rabbid offers more team flexibility, and Magnet Dance is great. Peach has better options when they're far from enemies but if that's a frequent issue you shouldn't use either. Healing Jump is nice though. Honestly a lot of the time I was either using both or neither.

Luigi is a weird character, definitely a late-bloomer. He badly needs some serious orb investment into both his techniques (his overwatch starts bad but becomes amazing, and Itchy Feet is a move buff with expensive upgrades needed to take it from +1 to +3). That said his fully-developed techniques are amazing, and see Rabbid Peach for sentry hype. Terrible HP and being unimpressive early are weaknesses though.

Yoshi... honestly if your goal is to beat the game, you shouldn't spend any money on him. He absolutely needs weaponry to take advantage of Super Chance and you only have him for a few maps. If you're doing aftergame, he's got some good move-based damage and Super Chance on the Ink Rocket Launcher is neat for disabling a bunch of enemies at once.

Rabbid Yoshi is... not awful but he was not balanced properly against Rabbid Peach. The two are similar, as they both can dash lots of enemies (Rabbid Peach gets 4 hits of 100, Rabbid Yoshi gets 5 hits of 90, similar enough). But where Rabbid Peach gets useful MT healing and amazing sentries, he gets Scaredy Rabbid, which is largely trash, and mediocre grenades. And otherwise he doesn't really have any meaningful edges on her, so the only time you'd want to use him is when you're using both and honestly if there are THAT many enemies to dash you might want to consider Rabbid Mario or Yoshi for their AoE options anyway.

Mario you may notice is not tiered above, since you can't actually choose whether you use him, what does it matter? I'm pretty confident I'd rate him above Luigi (both overwatch specialists, but M-Power is bigger than anything unique Luigi brings) and pretty confident he's below Rabbid Luigi and Rabbid Peach but beyond that I'm not sure. Kinda low on mobility (tied game-worst move and outright game-worst team jump range) and not really special at anything except those techniques, but man they're both good.

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Re: What games are you playing 2019?
« Reply #98 on: March 07, 2019, 06:53:37 PM »
DMC3: beat normal mode. may or may not try harder difficulties - feels like they're worth it, but it'll also take forever and there's a lot else I want to play in the same vein, notably DMC5 and also Sekiro, when it lands later this month.  Final boss was hella cool but also pretty clearly demonstrates the games' camera issues, which are exacerbated by direction-specific controls mapped to the same button.  So, we'll see.
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« Reply #99 on: March 08, 2019, 08:43:51 AM »
Atelier Ayesha

  Plot progress.  Got a solid lead on Nio unless the game decides to yank Ayesha's chain some more.  Also encountered my first real boss battle.  Just barely pulled through since my item loadout wasn't the greatest.  Lesson learned and I loaded up with more of the better healing items I had access to.  Also, game was nice enough to tell me to prepare before going in.  This one has "final confrontation" written all over it unless the game pulls a "your princess sister is in another castle location, ha ha" tease.

  Main objective completed just under the two year mark.  Didn't need more complicated strategy than having enough healing to keep the companions upright and bashing away.  Felt warm and fuzzy and also weary after a long fight.   Now to tie up some low hanging loose ends and then jump to the credits and save the hard optional fights for a replay...  Oh come on, there's no "hop to end credits" option?  I just want an ending for unlocking extras menu.  Found barrel while poking around for a way to quickly jump to the ending.  Looks like it's going to be the long way to the end.