Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 2

[Cmdr_King]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF)
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon)


Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope) vs Lich (Final Fantasy)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Kamil (The 7 th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)

[Dhyerwolf]

Godlike
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)- Yeah...
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)- I can vote on this! If I had any remembrance of Kraken FF 3
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon)


Heavy
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- Nel kills Erik's MP turn 1, leaving him unable to really answer with anything.


Middle
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)- So, status immunity in IAS gets stat downs, but if Sylveon's ignore that...I guess Setsuna still has a better offensive + healing blitz. So gut reaction she takes this one way or another.
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)- Elemental mage v FF 9

Light
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)- Puny war.
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)- Reyna has some evade and Charm is out of the way.

[Pyro]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF): Ice gem (s) break him, and then he eats what, 5x PCHP damage in Exploder gems while broken? Ugly.
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon): Instant death via Consume Life.


Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time): I believe Dhyer when he says she OHKOs his MP?
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope) vs Lich (Final Fantasy): Edge blocks paralysis and has (fastish?) healing. There's some ice walling in there too I think.
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX): element walling?
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Kamil (The 7 th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)

[Random Consonant]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) - Pamela in Godlike?  Am I missing something?
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III) - Hey, I actually fought this guy!  And yeah no Ash ain't handling this.

Heavy
Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX) - Loud shrug.
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World) - Faster, Blind Strike -> Siren's Call -> Elec Strike should kill while keeping Camilla from hitting (and thus OHKOing) in time


Middle

Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) - Walling.

Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears) - Surely.
Kamil (The 7th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) - Louder shrug.

[SnowFire]

Dhyer / Pyro: DQ11 has a universal accessory in the Elfin Charm that reduces MP theft by 50% (which I'd see as also reducing raw MP damage; all MP damage is theft in-game).  It also reduces instant death chance by 50% depending on if you let DQ11 ID resistance translate to SO3 freeze resistance.  Erik should win pretty handily if the fight makes it to turn 2, so Nel does need a decisive turn 1 play.


Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF)
Hmm, by the stat topic's numbers, a 1.3x damage Ice Gem followed by a double-damage Exploder Gem on the Break turn is still a lot of damage.  I might be inclined to be a tad harsher on the Gadgeteer's own personal damage average since, unlike other XF units, they deplete a consumable resource, but I don't think Mattias is tanky enough to survive.  (If he does, I'm not sure he can deny a final Gadgeteer turn anyway, even if he guards his weaknesses, since he'll be really close to death.)

Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)
The animation on Shock! doesn't look like a sword attack at all, it's more like magic sword explosion a la Ryoma's Raijinto from range, Steiner doesn't even advance.  So...  he gets around counters, and it's a rare time the "excess" damage helps out since Tiki's a high-Defense, meh-HP character, but Steiner has damage "to spare" due to the damage cap.  His own defense is good.
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)
I'm inclined to be fairly lenient on status-equivalency checks, and even if you're not, Erik has a bit of dodge vs. a multihit attack of Frozen Daggers to push the freeze hit rate down some.  Nel does null death herself, but Divide -> Fatal Slash for the KO still works.  See above note, Erik can equip an Elfin Charm and ruin Nel's MP kill game.
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Sure, I'll buy Blind Strike hype.

Middle

Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Setsuna's MP is quite constrained and Sylveon has good SpDef and Light Screen.  She may actually want to do something like stall with cheap healing until using her ultimate (that counter doesn't care if you needed the healing or not, just how much healing was done).  Or break out some CHAKRAM BEATDOWN.  Unsure, Sylveon kinda fails forever at pressuring Setsuna too, and that means Setsuna can also hope for some broken RNG ability or to build lots of Momentum.
EDIT: Yeah, Setsuna here.
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)
Lux (The 7th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)
Lux isn't that special, Hope is a repeat Middle champ.  At absolute best Lux "heal locks" a character with infinite resources who eventually uses Summon and wins.

Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)
Yes, I am voting for the FF7 boss here.  Rude sucks at damage but Lauren is on another level.
Kamil (The 7 th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)
Kamil can outpace Blood Lance and use healing if Kain goes for Jump strats?

[superaielman]

Pass so hard on Mattias vs Gadgeteer.

Heavy

Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- Was Erik's ID immunity available in C3 only? I'd bet it was offhand so punt to that. 
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)- Bleh as always to chemist.  Don't think I allow the drops, so Luigi should outlast Chemist's items. Allowing any sort of more lenient drops would flip the match of course.


Middle

Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)- Hope goes first, buffs and outlasts. Lux doesn't have the damage to really exploit Hope's durability.


Light

Kamil (The 7 th Saga)vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)- This match. Whoof. Vacuum is pretty much useless in normal fights for Kamil as you have to have worse magic than the target for it to hit. It also makes a seperate check for Vacuum, which is an elemental defense in 7S.  Aegis Shield Kain (And I can't believe I'm typing this) should have better magic than Kamil.

Problem though? Kamil's got four shots of full healing. Kamil's durability to physicals is at least above average so Kain needs several turns to force a heal. That's giving way too many turns. Even with Kamil missing a fair bit due to the bad accuracy, he is going to outlast Kain.  Kain can't use the Blood Spear here either. Among other things, the  Blood Spear kills his magic defense. At that point he is at risk for being hit by Vacuum.  As I stated above, Vacuum is useless in normal fights. Blood Spear Kain isn't normal. 

And Kamil still may well outslug the Blood Spear anyway. God. Way too much thought for this match.

[Dhyerwolf]

Dhyer / Pyro: DQ11 has a universal accessory in the Elfin Charm that reduces MP theft by 50% (which I'd see as also reducing raw MP damage; all MP damage is theft in-game).  It also reduces instant death chance by 50% depending on if you let DQ11 ID resistance translate to SO3 freeze resistance.  Erik should win pretty handily if the fight makes it to turn 2, so Nel does need a decisive turn 1 play.

What's the actual accessibility on this (even ignoring that I do somewhat agree with Super on act 3, but leaving that aside for now)? Looks like it needs several non-buyable items, which other items might also be competing for.

[Random Consonant]

Yeah while I'm not going to comment on whether or not taking DQ11 at Act 3 is kosher or not, even it it were the materials needed for Elfin Charms/Catholicon Rings/probably Skull Rings/maybe a couple other accessories I don't remember off the top of my head seem like they'd be pretty far from what I'd consider reasonable to allow for universal accessories, so I certainly wouldn't consider them.

[SnowFire]

There's Usual Dumb Crafting Busywork to make some Elfin Charms, but it's not SUPER onerous IMO.  You fly to the various sky whale stations and grab crafting material there from the Ultimate Fonts of Crafting Stuff.  They barely count as dungeons at all - they're tiny, they'll have like 1-4 easily evadable enemy formations in 'em.  For Elfin Charms in particular, they also require an Elfin Elixir, which is maybe a bit more problematic than the crafting materials.  Did you cheeze the casino somehow?  There's generally speaking two ways to do it: to win the jackpot at roulette (you get to talk to the person who sometimes says "I think somebody's gonna win the jackpot soon!" a lot, then actually winning it), or to leave the PC / Console on for an hour+ at Slime Quest slots on at least a mildly "hot" slot machine.  If you did either of these, you'll be able to afford plenty of Elfin Elixirs (I went for the "leave Slime Quest playing itself for 2 hours" route myself while doing something else).  If you didn't, the Elixirs are still technically storebought if you change normal money into tokens, but the cost is pretty extreme to buy them.

Checking, it seems Papillon Pendant is an Act I accessory that reduces MP theft by 25%, so in Dhyer's case (since I believe he considers Freeze a turn 2 status in general even before Erik's minor evasion rate), no-Elfin-Charm-Erik can opt to prevent a complete MP kill with that.  Will depend on how badass you see Nel's MP damage of course, and possibly if you let Erik equip 2 accessory slots for this.  A hypothetical end-of-Act 2 interp should still see Erik getting a Divide-powered KO on turn 2 at high speed if he has any MP left and wasn't frozen.

[Dhyerwolf]

That might potentially be enough, but even the early equip seems to rely on a non-storebought item (and then the combo of equipping the whole cast+other items that may want the same base item+this is a single bad equip makes me really lean against even taking that seriously unless I'm wrong on the non-storebought part). Definitely hard no on more than 1 accessory slot as per usual standards.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III) - Kraken kinda a badass and, if he doesn't one-round Ash, he certainly keeps him forever heal-locked without ever triggering counters. That just won't work.
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF) - I think Gadgeteer deals almost 4x PC HP by the time Mattias gets enough turns to knock her down. Do I see him as THAT durable? No, not really.

Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) - FF9 equipment nonsense.
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII) - Lux does not have the damage to pressure Hope at all.

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears) - Chu-Chu dies for the dream of a Fódlan free from gods.
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Very funny, Elly.
Kamil Dowonna (The 7th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) - Good lord.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Godlike

Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III): Vandalier's not really legal to me any more... but Ash was nommed in Godlike, so I might as well vote on him that way to make him not boring. *checks stat topic* And we don't even have damage numbers for VH, great. Kraken will use Blizzara + Blind, that heal-locks and sometimes statuses, probably good enough. Obvious desire to tiebreak for the one with proper numbers, why is that the plotless FF3DS boss.
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF): My memory is that Exploder Gem +1's are really too expensive to be legal, but the Ice Gem +1's should be fine, and those.. actually suffice. Since Gadgeteer is above average speed, she should get a second turn in the same "round" once her speed is doubled, then two more the next round, which is a total multiplier of 1.3 + 2*3 = 7.3x Ice Gem damage, which is over 6PCHP. That should be enough.
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon): Physical instant death? uh oh.


Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX): Steiner is both more durable and more damaging, and avoids counters. Goes second, but surely he kills in one less hit... also has some evade.
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time): If DQ11's length were more reasonable I'd be able to vote on this by now. Alas.
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World): Blind Strike seems pretty legit, don't see any reason to disagree with Random.
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V): Rabbid Luigi tosses away all his weapons, and dashes into Chemist over and over healing until Chemist runs out of items, because it's funnier that way and Rabbid Luigi lives for that. (Hm, actually, level-boosting means there's a chance Chemist could break past this eventually. FINE, he uses the stone-inflicting yo-yo, happy?)


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope) vs Lich (Final Fantasy): Edge's ice defence doesn't do much good since it makes him fire-weak, he's still 3HKOed... still, he takes 36% while his healing restores 40% (with occasional doubles), so he can make some headway! Otherwise, block paralysis. Slow will cut his damage (I'd call it no combos) but eh he can't... really lose, he has ways to get MP back even, and his healing is so ridiculously cheap.
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon): Sylveon can't... really break past the healing? May take a while, but momentum seems good for fights like this.
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX): Yeah surely.


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears): Probably, Chu-Chu is pretty terrible.
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII): Lauren vs boss seems bad for her.

[Luther Lansfeld]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF)
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon)

Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope) vs Lich (Final Fantasy)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Kamil (The 7 th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)

[Cmdr_King]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts) vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF)
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer) vs Mewtwo (Pokémon)


Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon) vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)
Erik (Dragon Quest XI) vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- No vote.
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle) vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)- No vote.


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope) vs Lich (Final Fantasy)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)
Reyna (Eternal Poison) vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)- No vote.
Kamil (The 7 th Saga) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)- No vote.

[Cmdr_King]

Godlike

Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2)- iiii vs Pamela Ibis (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Ash Lambert (Vandal Hearts)- i vs Kraken (Final Fantasy III)- iii
Mattias (Octopath Traveler) vs Gadgeteer (Wild ARMs XF)- iiiiii
Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)- iiiii vs Mewtwo (Pokémon)


Heavy

Tiki (Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon)- i vs Adelbert Steiner (Final Fanasy IX)- iii
Erik (Dragon Quest XI)- i vs Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- iii
Camilla (Fire Emblem Fates) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)- iiiii
Rabbid Luigi (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle)- iii vs Chemist (Final Fantasy V)


Middle

Edge Maverick (Star Ocean The Last Hope)- iiii vs Lich (Final Fantasy)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna)- iiii vs Sylveon (Pokémon)
Finn (Child of Light) vs Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)- iiiiiiii
Lux (The 7 th Saga) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)- iii


Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses)- iiiiii vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lauren (Cosmic Star Heroine) vs Rude (Final Fantasy VII)- iiii
Reyna (Eternal Poison)- ii vs Thief M (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Kamil (The 7 th Saga)- iii vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)