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Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« on: November 27, 2020, 03:36:54 PM »
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Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time)
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)

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Romancing SaGa 3
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia
Cthulhu Saves Christmas
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
Indivisible
Final Fantasy VII Remake
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2020, 05:03:30 PM »
I'm so glad I can't vote on Kamil vs Hubert.

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Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)


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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2020, 06:26:29 PM »
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Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II) - Goes first and OHKOs.  I am absolutely not willing see Repede's strategy beat fast OHKOs ever.

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Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III) - Kneejerk is that Hugo has a little too much to work with for Claude to scam him out.  Possibly more interesting if you see WoS slamming into Charm instead of magic evasion but it should be obvious by now that I don't.

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates) - Well Xander would've fallen down the evasion hole either way I guess.

Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga) - Honestly Kamil's ice durability is bad enough that I'm personally willing to say that Frozen Lance heallocks and not think about it any further.

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Romancing SaGa 3 - Played
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia - Not played
Cthulhu Saves Christmas - Not played
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - Played
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - Not played
Indivisible - Not played
Final Fantasy VII Remake - Not played
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 11:47:05 PM by Random Consonant »
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2020, 06:43:21 PM »
Claude von Riegan (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III) - uh I'm not sure. Frankly haven't decided on how I see 3H against status myself, and this is very important here. Hugo's evade game makes Claude uguu as is, though... EDIT: Yeah, I suppose the evade is way too much.
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World) - uh I really need to decide on who is faster between Nel and Umi here, dammit. EDIT: Yeah, definitely. I'm okay with respecting Ice Daggers speed more than Umi in general.

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time) - Tin Man 2HKOs Adray and likely outraces Heal before he runs out of gas. Problem is, if I'm reading right, Ice Needles freeze is turn two? That uh is probably enough for Adray here, since he's still considerably faster.
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil Dowonna (The 7th Saga) - Frozen Lance indeed 2HKOs Kamil and Hubert goes first. Kamil OHKOs with Defend+physical... IF he hits, but it frankly doesn't matter because of being 2HKOed first.

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Romancing SaGa 3 - Played
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia - Played
Cthulhu Saves Christmas - Didn't play
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - Didn't play
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - Didn't play
Indivisible - Didn't play
Final Fantasy VII Remake - Didn't play
« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 11:37:13 AM by Jo'ou Ranbu »
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 06:58:37 PM »
Godlike

Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III): I do see charm reducing Wind of Sleep, but it doesn't matter. Just means it's turn 2 instead of turn 1, and Claude can't win with one turn. (Brave Bow quad miiight one-round but no way Claude hits 4/4 on that.)
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World): Dhyer's numbers suggest Nel is definitely faster, 139% speed is definitely gonna beat Umi by any scaling. Going first with a >50% freeze makes it almost impossible for an opponent to win with status, and her lightning resistance means that Umi isn't going to win quick with damage, either.

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates): Best-case scenario for Xander is hyping his high move as giving him a shot at Elmdor's back (30% hit rate) and Chivalry's boost letting him barely OHKO. He's still giving Elmdor three turns on average, way too much.
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII): Could be argued there's some momentum strat, but strong kneejerk is that Hope's buff pileup is too much for Setsuna to handle. This is especially true if Barthunder is seen as reducing her damage, and given that her own spell that boosts it is called Enthunder, this is very tempting... but probably isn't necessary.

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time): Faster freeze makes sense to me. Tin Man has problems with this matchup regardless.


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Romancing SaGa 3
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia - Played
Cthulhu Saves Christmas
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
Indivisible - Played
Final Fantasy VII Remake - Played
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 08:52:32 PM by Dark Holy Elf »
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 04:51:32 AM »
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Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)- Nyarly has very good HP, which isn't something a Bravely character generally wants to hear.

Heavy
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)- Resists Silence. I think that gives her enough time.

Middle
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)- Gut reaction. Hope will just heal forever until he can summon his Eidolon, and I don't think Setsuna has any answer to this and that's without his defensive buffs in play.

Light
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time)

Data Mine

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« Last Edit: November 29, 2020, 04:21:45 AM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 08:18:53 AM »
Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)
It's a little "cheesy" but I legitimately think that Claude's "best" DL path might be to hit both Brigand AND Archer and skip out on...  apparently he runs Swordmaster rather than Wyvern Master at L21-31 for the growths.   Slightly worse growths but this is definitely one of those matches he wants Hit +20 for!
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Not really down for ARPG speed hype today.

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)
Setsuna does have a plan that doesn't involve Singularity RNG, heal a ton and then OHKO with her ultimate.  I'm not really a huge fan of hyping up the heal-into-Summon strategy which is heavily dependent on starting..  whatever that meter that governed Summon was...  but Elf has a good point that Hope has Barthunder, which would make Setsuna have to heal for an even longer time.  So probably Hope, but meh, he puts on such horrible pressure here.  (Usual reminder I don't let him have Commando.)

Light

Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)
I'll throw Hubert a bone and let Frozen Lance be considered as Ice, which might manage to heal-lock Kamil it seems.

Data Mine

Romancing SaGa 3
Played a bit of it, although I think the Switch version is a bit different from the Super Famicom one, right?  Balance tweaks & such?  Could go back to it but kinda got lost and wasn't sure what to do.

Cthulhu Saves Christmas
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
Indivisible
Own, haven't played.

Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Neither own nor played, although I have some interest in all three.  (Kiiiinda doubt FF7R is a good DL game though!)
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2020, 04:19:43 AM »
Flipping my Nel v Umi vote since I failed to realized SO 3 did have a Silence blocker (which under my current views I likely see at half effect, but that's enough here).
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2020, 06:08:10 PM »
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Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II): Gale Dog is very fast (instant) and I'm not going to vote on Repede.
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time): Now Freeze.
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)

Data Mine

Romancing SaGa 3: Not played. Don't own.
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia: Not played. Don't have a Switch.
Cthulhu Saves Christmas: Beaten.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III: Played. Beaten.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV: Not played. Don't own yet.
Indivisible: Not played. Don't own yet.
Final Fantasy VII Remake: Not played. Don't have a PS4.
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 01:36:19 PM »
Godlike

Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)- Taking Dhyer at his word here.

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time)
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)- No vote.

Data Mine

Romancing SaGa 3
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia
Cthulhu Saves Christmas
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
Indivisible
Final Fantasy VII Remake- Haven't finished any of them.
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2020, 09:51:08 PM »
Godlike

Repede (Tales of Vesperia) vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2) vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time)
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)

Data Mine

Romancing SaGa 3 - Played!
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia - Own, will play soon
Cthulhu Saves Christmas - Not played, Didn't know this was real
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - Not played, but eventually
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - Not played
Indivisible - Own, but not sure how soon I'll get to it
Final Fantasy VII Remake - Played!
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Re: Futurama 2020 Season 2, Week 4
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2020, 09:59:47 PM »
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Repede (Tales of Vesperia)- ii vs Jowy Atreides (Suikoden II)- iii
Nyarlathotep (Pesona 2)- iii vs Yokai (Bravely Second: End Layer)

Heavy

Claude von Riegen (Fire Emblem: Three Houses) vs Hugo (Suikoden III)- iiiiii
Nel Zelpher (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- iiiiii vs Umi (Cthulhu Saves the World)- i

Middle

Messam Elmdore (Final Fantasy Tactics)- iiii vs Xander (Fire Emblem Fates)
Setsuna (I Am Setsuna) vs Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)- iiiii

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean Till the End of Time)- iiiiii
Hubert von Vestra (Fire Emblem: Three Houses)- iii vs Kamil (The 7 th Saga)

Data Mine

Romancing SaGa 3 random, Snow, Djinn,
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia super, Snow, Elf, 
Cthulhu Saves Christmas Pyro,
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III random, Pyro,
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
Indivisible
Final Fantasy VII Remake Elf, Djinn,
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