Author Topic: RPGVO 2023 Round 2: Two Tonys? I must be going crazy! Also BoF1 Scrub Match.  (Read 1647 times)

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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket)
Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV)
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1)
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS)


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6)
Emelia (SaGa) vs. Clarissa (WAXF)
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8)


Middle

Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1)
Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW)
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4)
Sylvain (FE3H) vs. Aika (SoA)


Light

Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF)
Queen (S3) vs. Jelanda (VP1)
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1)


Voting extends until 11:00 PM, Sunday, 8/27/2023
« Last Edit: August 21, 2023, 07:26:04 AM by 074 »
<+Nama-EmblemOfFire> ...Have the GhebFE guy and the ostian princess guy collaborate.
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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket) - Gets a turn, and Hungry Fiend OHKOs.
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) - This almost feels unfair.


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6) - Guv can open with Dragon Soul!...  And then Edgar NoiseBlasters him to infinity.  If Guv winds up FullHealing Edgar at some point during that, then he can follow up with Air Anchor and just win.
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - DeadEnd


Middle

No votes


Light

Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - I don't think Ginny can overcome Choco Heal.  She might, but not fast enough to win. I FORGOT ABOUT THE EVASION.
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1) - Slightly less awful.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2023, 06:42:30 AM by Magic Fanatic »

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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) - It's possible Jowy might get lucky with dodging but Belial is accurate and +1.1 SD ain't fast enough to fend off her instadoubling by any measure and he doesn't survive two Tank Drops, so I'm not actually sure about this one.
Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Really now.  Honestly Elim could be turn never and Rika would probably still win this unless you don't limit Raging Storm to OPB (I mean, I wouldn't see PS4 dodging combat arts but it doesn't actually matter.)
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1) - Not a great time to be a physical FE character in godlike, it seems.

Heavy

Emelia (SaGa) vs. Clarissa (WAXF)
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8) - After accounting for StQ/Defense Up, W8 has like ~1.59 pdur to me?  And I am probably willing to buy into Sieglinde getting monster effectiveness here.


Middle

Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1) - Tide's probably right, Florina's likely 3RKOing at best here and 52% evade isn't really cutting it against timed card spam with her poor physical durability.
Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW) - Sadly, this is probably right. e: actually was ORB counter only on both forms, it's not listed as such on the one he can actually win matches with and it's been way too long.
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4) - Tony instadoubles, has Micro Missiles for long range action.  Are two javelin counters good enough?  IDK, kind of doubt it, Wrath might help but on the other hand Tony has some weak evade to make a mess of things, and it's not like Nephenee strength is anything special.


Light

Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF) - Surely.
Queen (S3) vs. Jelanda (VP1) - Probably correct
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - uh surely?  Boco has like 0.61 PCHP and has to run into Ginny's evade, and of course the bird is much slower and has damage so bad that Ginny has no trouble getting a fatal Gatling off.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2023, 07:27:35 PM by Random Consonant »

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Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Never mind Elim, Saner also causes Edie a whole bunch of headaches.


Heavy
Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6) - Don't really see a way for Guv to win this in one turn, and he kind of needs to. Both AA and Noiseblaster are really bad news here.
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8) - I think. Yeah W8 is durable and has ITE, but Eirika is also a crazy S tier slugger. The evade makes W8's counters iffy, and she constantly doubles. There's also an argument here that Sieglinde hits Weakness due to Monster Class and that just shuts the case close if you buy it.


Middle
Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1) - Not quite sure? So my kneejerk is Flo because Flo's offense is very good. However, there's no reason Flay is using base physicals and will largely be throwing timed cards. And Timed Cards can't be directly countered and Flo's concrete durability isn't very good. Probably requires some math work.
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4) - Yeah, see Random. Not sure 2 Javelins are enough to kill TONYMAN. Like he's not special on durability but Neph doesn't have super high strength to make those Javs really hurt.
Sylvain (FE3H) vs. Aika (SoA) - Unless I'm missing something. So Aika confuses Sylvain but...what does that do for her exactly? Yeah, he can't use Skills, but I think he's perfectly fine hitting her with a Brave Lance / Lance of Ruin since he's just a generally better slugger. Did Confuse stop counters?


Light
Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF) - Even taking 1/2 damage, Tony is bad. Also, it may have issues breaking RENEWAL.
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - Ginny probably gets a Max'd Gatling here since Boco's only attack also runs headfirst into Evade.
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Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)  Yeee... I don't see Boco landing enough attacks through that evasion before Virgina unloads a full Gatling string into him.

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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket)
Oh fun, Suikoden 2 damage averages time.  I think Jowy has enough for the OHKO here along with not dying to Belial's damage.
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1)

Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6)
I don't consider Dragon Soul particularly legal and I don't think it even matters here.  Don't think DQ8 PS2 had a way to get instant death / confusion protection, although maybe the 3DS version has a better shot.
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8)
So...  Work isn't the list of Countergrasp'able commands, and is also apparently ITE.  This means W8 is clobbering Eirika in two undodgeable attacks.  That said, Eirika will get 4 attacks herself, and while I might normally potentially doubt there's enough Oomph there to get through the tanky W8, his type is apparently "Demon."  RIP.

Middle

Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW)
Dalton's HP doesn't sound THAT hot, so October just 2HKOs, right?  She only has to withstand a single HP-halving + the death counter then.
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4)
Sylvain (FE3H) vs. Aika (SoA)
Sylvain's Brave Lance basic attack deals 0.46 PCHP damage (because the 3H damage average is crazy high), and Aika's HP is 0.90 with slightly below average defense, so... Sylvain just barely has the 2HKO, which is what he needs (barring bad luck on dodging).

Light

Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF)
Queen (S3) vs. Jelanda (VP1)
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1)

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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4): I think Jowy checks the boxes here (MT damage, can take two Tank drops via def)
Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV)
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1)
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS)


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6)
Emelia (SaGa) vs. Clarissa (WAXF): initiative damage.
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa) status or ID
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8): demon typing!?


Middle

Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1): I don't think she can double with a Killer weapon and can't counter his ranged repeating blade attacks, so I think he's got this.
Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW)
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4)
Sylvain (FE3H) vs. Aika (SoA)


Light

Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF) regen
Queen (S3) vs. Jelanda (VP1)
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 04:10:16 AM by Pyro »

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Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket) - Not seeing Jowy survive double Tank Drop personally.
Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Even under my generous Edelgard interps, Rika is too much.
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1) - I do not remember VP1 Fenrir enough for this.
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) - mismatched, such is Godlike


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6) - Instant Death craziness in Heavy as usual
Emelia (SaGa) vs. Clarissa (WAXF) - Kneejerk that initiative TwoGun damage works here.
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - Instant Death craziness in Heavy as usual
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8) - I will buy the Monster-type weakness hype.


Middle

Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1) - losing out on the counters nerfs Florina hard
Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW)
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4)
Sylvain (FE3H) vs. Aika (SoA) - I guess Swirlmarang doesn’t save her here?
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Light

Linhardt (FE3H) vs. Tony (WAXF) - But Tony still wins the Good Boy contest in my heart.
Queen (S3) vs. Jelanda (VP1)
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1) - Pretty straightforward Light Matches today.


Voting extends until 11:00 PM, Sunday, 8/27/2023
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Match Results:

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Jowy Atreides (S2) || vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket) |
Edelgard (FE3H) vs. Rika (PSIV) ||||
Nailah (FE10) vs. Fenrir (VP1) |||
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) |||


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6) |||||
Emelia (SaGa) || vs. Clarissa (WAXF)
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa) ||||
Worker 8 (FFT) vs. Eirika (FE8) |||||


Middle

Florina (FE7) vs. Flay (MK1) ||||
Dalton (CT) vs. October (CSTW) ||
Nephenee (FE10) vs. Tony (WA4) ||||
Sylvain (FE3H) |||| vs. Aika (SoA)


Light

Linhardt (FE3H) ||||| vs. Tony (WAXF)
Queen (S3) |||| vs. Jelanda (VP1)
Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) |||||||
Karn (BoF1) |||| vs. Mogu (BoF1)

Winners move on to the Winners' Quarterfinals in Round 4.  Losers will be seen in Round 3 in the Losers' bracket.
<+Nama-EmblemOfFire> ...Have the GhebFE guy and the ostian princess guy collaborate.
 <@Elecman> Seems reasonable.