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Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« on: January 15, 2025, 02:07:43 AM »
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Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2025, 03:04:40 AM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

Heavy

Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) - Repeat after me: FE versus status.

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

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Dragon Quest XI - Rank.  Good dueller variety, wide playership, good spread for Middle and Heavy in particular.
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - Rank.  Individual ranking considerations will have to be given a second pass-over but SRW's not *that* rough of a game.  Does this count OG2 or just OG1, for the count?
Unicorn Overlord - Abstain.  The variety is...not as there as I'd have liked compared to in-game and I largely don't find them a particularly exciting translation.
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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2025, 03:51:31 AM »
At a glance, I don't have numbers for OG2, so provisionally we could call this just OG1.  Like I could probably slap together numbers for OG2 pretty quick but welllll we'll see what OG1 here does.

That said I am kinda surprised I just don't have OG2's numbers.
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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2025, 05:37:04 AM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

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nope

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Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) - Merrin does have above average resist/luck... but not nearly above average enough.

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Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - I would kneejerk that Canopus fares no worse against Cecil than he did against Viktor.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2025, 10:13:55 AM »
Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Remote Mines have no real reason to be seen as walled by Fly. This... is VERY ugly.

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - Cecil... actually isn't much different from Viktor in any relevant way for this match, is he? Even the healing actually is more of a problem than a help, because higher TP = higher damage on the finisher and Cura just erases a single hit at most.
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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2025, 02:54:49 PM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Seph's a High Godlike for good reason, but when it comes to pure slugging, Reicher is pretty much in his own class if you don't have an answer for physicals or Light resistance. Even with Wall, by the time Seph gets his 3rd turn, he's basically at death's door and there's no way 2 hits of anything he has is enough to drop Reicher.

Middle
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) - Oh hey, I just go to the part with Merrin in Engage. And uh...not exactly sure how she answers Dual Cast lethal status of some sort here. Like the Luck/Res might even throw off one attempt but if even one casting hits, she's in pretty deep.

Light
Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - Canopus gets a pretty big finisher for this I feel and there's not much Cecil can do about it. Cura just isnt' strong enough healing to outdo the regular bow shots.
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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2025, 05:42:30 PM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

Heavy

Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

Rankings

Dragon Quest XI
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Unicorn Overlord

Rank everything, as we always should. :)

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2025, 06:21:40 AM »
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Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)
I suspect Cecil is in trouble even in the versions of FF4 where his damage isn't as bad.

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Abstain on SRW OG.  My main recollection there is that the issue is less with the game and more bad kneejerks in ranking back in the day...  like anyone who is spamming Alert for perfect evasion for days is High Middle minimum, probably Heavy if there's absolutely anything else they can do.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2025, 03:02:18 PM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII): There's a chance Sephiroth could bring enough offence before the timed cards really start doing horrible things, but I think he falls short; with that shield considered, Reicher is actually pretty durable.

Heavy

Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road): Confuse and Death are both things Myuria can't block, so Tomato Bomb followed by Falcon Swoop works.

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage): Dualcast Sleep does the trick. Merrin probably has enough magic evade for the first sleep to miss, to me, but not both. Incidentally, the stat topic should really have the status accuracy/evade formula - I'll add it later if I remember.

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together): Cecil's biggest advantage over Viktor is the healing which isn't really relevant here as Canopus just gets more time for a mean finisher.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2025, 12:24:03 AM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

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Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

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Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)

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Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2025, 12:41:40 AM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

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Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)- No vote

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Dragon Quest XI
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Unicorn Overlord- Rank all the things
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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2025, 12:19:17 AM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Sadly, a problem that Fly doesn’t solve, Sephy

Heavy

Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) - Statuses betterer

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) - Sling that status~

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

Rankings

Dragon Quest XI  - Rank yes
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - haven’t played, but seems fine?
Unicorn Overlord - Rank yes please, this is the cast I’m most interested in from this decade

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Re: Futurama 2024 Finals and Rankings!!
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2025, 07:58:18 PM »
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Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)- iiiiiii vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)

Heavy

Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)- iiii

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V)- iiiiiii vs Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)

Light

Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)- iiiiii

Rankings

Voters- iiiiiiiiii /10
Dragon Quest XI- iiiii 5/10 Rank
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation- iiii 4/10 Backburner
Unicorn Overlord- iiii Backburner

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