The fact that it took half a post to make a point is probably why I didn't address it. I can't help it if you obfuscate your main points with a rant that would make Meep proud.
The post that you picked apart so relentlessly that you quoted one small sub-paragraph three times up until that kind of argues against you here, y'know.
Also, to obfuscate, one must not be arguing another person's points at the time. It took me a while to get past your points to get to mine. ^_^
If Aeons were 100% drawn from Yuna's power, then she could summon them wherever and whenever she wishes. This isn't the case.
Yeah, swordsmanship has no draw from a sword's power. Not even legendary blades like Dual Blade.
Dhoulmagus' staff has no mental will of it's own.
etc.
When an Aeon is killed during the final battle, Yuna can never summon that Aeon again (otherwise Yuna could just recreate it!).
A: The idea there plotwise may be that she's killing off the Fayth(Which, we do indeed see turning to stone shortly thereafter) during that battle. It's a little vague on this, doesn't matter 'cause...
B: Um dead Aeons stay dead. I know, you didn't think you could kill them if you tried, but they're dead. You know. Like on the PC end? So there's a full gameplay explanation there as well, proving that they were staying consistant.
(Why they're able to be dead, plotwise, to start with is an interesting question, but ultimately unanswerable, and the real reason is "So you can't simply resummon them and slaughter everything in existance."-that is, a gameplay one.)
From the plot? An Aeon is just a vessel for a singular, unique, "soul" if you will; the prime example being that the Fayth of Anima is Seymour's mother. There's no denying that the Fayth is a singular, unique being, and an Aeon is just a vessel for the Fayth; a pyreflye construct created by the summoner. Sure Yuna's power is required for part of the process, but in the entirety it requires a separate entity, and the resulting Aeon *acts* like separate entity (especially Magus Three and Yojimbo, Aeons Yuna only has very limited control over).
So like all those Summons Rydia uses, if you're exactly right.
But, actually, no. The
Fayth is a unique, singular soul.
The summon is a power granted by the Fayth. It can only exist with the Fayth still existing, but that seems to be the only direct link. We see the Fayth passing a weird ball of light into Yuna, we see Yuna able to conjure the summoned creature, the summoned creature it's self may or may not have any intelligence of it's own(The game is not especially clear on this. Certainly, they "act on their own" as a gameplay factor...and act very stupid as a gameplay factor as well. Just because they act on their own doesn't mean they have more intelligence than Shadow's dog.), and most importantly their body can never exist in and of it's self. They require a summoner to ever be manifest as a summon.
How are swords not unique? If I own a sword, it is mine and having that sword is my specific advantage. Exerting ownership over the sword is certainly an extension of my power. Not necessarily an extension of my combat power, but rather my power of ownership and all the benefits ownership of that sword entail. If you think ownership rights over property are some flimsy construct with no real power behind it, think again.
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Okay.
Unique, in your terms, means there's only one of something, right? (Sure, it may be a data-copy of another weapon, but anyways.)
But there's only one summon with Yuna's statistics. Ever.
And indeed, Yuna's summons are so much better than most people's(Both gameplay wise and by the simple fact that she completes her pilgramage...more or less.) that it proves she is inordinately better with them.
So...how is this not even more unique by your view? Her summons have her own names, which, even if you don't rename them, are different from any others. They "look the same", much like a storebought sword. They have some plot about their own will, but so do True Runes.
Certainly, you can say "but you can't summon two of them to fight each other", but that's all you can say. The game never says why. There are good, logical reasons for this. Maybe it's considered unfair in gameplay. Maybe it's a certain type of Pyreflies. Maybe, maybe, maybe, who knows, the point is you're writing your own plot to explain this.
Also, the most ironic part is, Yuna is the sole wielder, as far as we know of, of Yojimbo, Anima and the Magus Sisters on Spira, at game end, assuming you get them all. Belgemine, the only person we ever see with the Sisters, is sent. Seymour is killed, so there goes Anima. Yojimbo is never seen wielded by anyone but Belgemine as well. So even this point doesn't actually justify banning them all, merely the non-optionals.
(What the hell OK's view has some support? Wait, I forget, did he do it just to be random or because of this?)
This is even above and beyond Elfboy's also-good point, naturally.
With her aeons, they fight on their own and die on their own because they are separate entities right, while the summons casted by other summoners do not die because it is just an attack move plain and simple....what is so hard about that?
Like Ryu's dragon forms, then?
We've established that taking hits for you and having a seperate lifebar isn't enough for this conversation, for...some reason...I'm not really sure why people never just bite the bullet, if they dislike Aeons so much, and just ban everything remotely similar. I mean, if you hate Aeons as a concept so much, why not other transformations...?
Ryu is a dragon, so when he transforms...its him that transforms. He is not summoning another creature to do battle
Ah, but Ryu 4 and 5 basically are. 4's own have seperate lifebars, seperate bodies for the full transformation, seperate movesets, everything, the only change is that his own body is manifesting them. Plotwise they're him turning into dead dragons. Then there's his dragon summoning moves too... 5 is even worse in this regard, but 5 doesn't count much anyways.
(3, I'll admit, maybe I haven't looked over 3 in a while, but IIRC Genes are crystallized Chrysm(Remains of other dragons) and granting him power directly, barring the dragon forms he gets other ways(Oh, there's Shadow, Fusion and Kaiser in there, I forgot those.). So he's borrowing the power of dead dragons to change into them.)
Oh, as to the commanding thing? Yuna's standing out there with the Aeon the entire time. Just because she's not constantly yelling GO, IXION!, doesn't mean she's not commanding them.
