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Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« on: May 10, 2008, 05:35:28 AM »
Team Lady (Lady, Leopold, Yuki, Dinn) vs Team Althena (False Althena, Arc, Alice FuSoYa)

Heavy/Godlike:

Magus, Zelos, Deathevans, Lulu, Leopold, Arc

Middle/Heavy:

Drachma, Canas, Sasarai, Tosh, Yuki, Alice

Light/Middle:

Miranda, Rikku, Nei, Cid Highwind, Dinn, FuSoYa
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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 05:48:19 AM »
Team Lady- Do not fuck with Lady in a team match. No one on FA's team gets a turn besides FA.

H/G:

How I'll vote:

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Deathevans=Leopold>Lulu=Magus=Arc>Zelos



This is pathetic. Evans can get past Magus's barrier, outlasts Arc (Zelos sucks, pass it on), and should ID Lulu in time. Leopold eats him alive. Leopold is better than Zelos, lost to Arc on site, smashes Magus (ITD/E crits), smashes Lulu (ITD/E crits, lots of HP). Lulu laughs at Magus's barrier and easily outlasts it, Arc can't OHKO Lulu I don't think. This may be arguble, WE does some very bad things to Lulu's defense.. eh. Actually I'll change my vote on that one. *EDIT*. Yeah, Arc goes 2-3, so does Lulu and Magus, who outlasts Arc's MP. Zelos sucks.

How I think it'll go:

Up: Arc, Leopold
Down: Zelos, Lulu? Hard to say here.

H/M:


Drachma, Canas, Sasarai, Tosh, Yuki, Alice

..Fail.

Tosh=Drachma>Sas>Alice>Canas>Yuki

How I'm voting. Brutally simple. Drachma and Tosh both slaughter the field (Unsure about their fights), Sas's excellent magic defense and delaying skills let him crush Canas and Alice, Yuki is Yuki and loses every fight.

Alice halves darkness. Canas is at least a middle.

How I think it'll go:

Up: Alice
Down: Canas

Yuki stays down.

M/L:

Miranda, Rikku, Nei, Cid, Dinn, Fu

How I'm voting:

Rikku: 4-1
Cid: 4-1
FuSoYa: 4-1
Miranda: 2-3
Dinn: 1-4
Nei: 0-5

Rikku's status gets everyone but Cid (Stop out, Berserk worthless), Cid outslugs everyone but Fu (Status), Fu statuses out everyone but Rikku. Miranda doesn't OHKO Cid, and she needs to. Dinn's too slow here. Nei sucks.

how I think it goes:

Up: Fu
Down: Nei

Nei is so dead.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2008, 06:03:54 AM by superaielman »
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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 07:44:57 AM »
Team Lady (Lady, Leopold, Yuki, Dinn) vs Team Althena (False Althena, Arc, Alice FuSoYa): Assuming you view Lady's win last week as valid, she solos. If you don't,  Leopold + Yuki + Dinn more than push her over the top. Gotta love High Godlikes who are mostly MT anyway.

Heavy/Godlike:

Magus, Deathevans, Lulu, Leopold

Magus vs. Evans is somewhat interesting, but Evans probably busts Magus' good phase after four NE attacks. Granted, he takes eight Magus attacks in the meantime, which does deal with most of his HP... and... still needs another four attacks since his damage doesn't get any better. Magus does lose counters though. Um... hell. Think Magus wins anyway?

Leopold likes his crits being ITD. He does not like triggering two counters in the slightest, though. Thinking he might -also- have some troubles here. Magus gets three attacks a round, Leo gets two... probably needs four rounds to get through... yeah same story as Evans, except he would kill faster afterwards... but double acting gets him. What the fuck.

Lulu, now, absorbs elements/heals/wins. She gets Deathed by Evans and Leopold... uh... depends if Desperate Attacks are ITE. If they are, Leo wins easily since he OHKOs. If not... thinking he may win anyway, he just needs some luck with stun (stun+crit is fatal in particular) or hitting through evade, and Lulu is so damn slow he probably gets it.

That leaves Leopold vs. Evans, which is a dead-easy win for Leo as he has well over double the offence and Evans' small durability lead isn't making that up.

Magus 2-1
Leopold 2-1
Evans 1-2
Lulu 1-2


Middle/Heavy:

Canas, Sasarai, Yuki, Alice

MEvade and MT means Sas owns Canas. Thinking Yuki has the firepower needed, too - Dragon Slash does most of the work itself. And Alice.. eh, resists dark, good enough.

Yuki OHKOs Sasarai before Sasarai OHKOs him. Sasarai... hmm. Puts too much pressure on Alice, chips with EQ to forceher to heal, heals off her own offence easily, and stalls out her SP.

Alice 2-1
Sasarai 2-1
Yuki 2-1
Canas 0-3

Light/Middle:

Miranda, Rikku, Cid Highwind, Dinn, FuSoYa

Miranda beats Fu like Shana should have, also beats Dinn since S5 misses Holy resist (don't -think- Dinn OHKOs anyway). Avoids Cid limits nicely, again dodging a OHKO by not too much. Beats Rikku because Rikku sucks.

Cid gets a L1, possibly L2 limit against Dinn while probably getting three normals in first. Then a normal after. Dinn's tanky but not that tanky. FuSoYa should survive a Cid turn and use Blink or something similarly decisive. Cid beats Rikku... actually wait, does he? He can't kill her, she can overdrive. Granted, when she overdrives, all she can really do is that status one... Cid blocks poison and actually doesn't mind the rest (sleep is annoying but he still gains limits while asleep, and IIRC getting an FF7 limit cancelled sleep). ... okay that's not working. So yeah, Cid wins via doing more damage, running Rikku out of items, take your pick.

Dinn is inept against Rikku, thus loses. This time Overdrives do indeed waste him sooner or later.

FuSoYa statuses Rikku.

Miranda 4-0
FuSoYa 3-1
Cid 2-2
Rikku 1-3
Dinn 0-4

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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 08:13:00 AM »
Team Lady (Lady, Leopold, Yuki, Dinn) vs Team Althena (False Althena, Arc, Alice, FuSoYa)-
Horrible slaughter. Lady should go first, D-comboes into Yuki, who uses Sky Dragon Slash...... Then it's pretty much Team Lady vs. False Athena.

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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 07:50:09 PM »
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Lulu, now, absorbs elements/heals/wins. She gets Deathed by Evans and Leopold... uh... depends if Desperate Attacks are ITE. If they are, Leo wins easily since he OHKOs. If not... thinking he may win anyway, he just needs some luck with stun (stun+crit is fatal in particular) or hitting through evade, and Lulu is so damn slow he probably gets it.

Dragon Quest crits are ITE, I'm extremely sure on this.   8 didn't change the formula the earlier games used. IIRC I remember seeing a lot more relative crits when I was blinded, same as in earlier games.
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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 09:40:59 PM »
Heavy/Godlike:
Magus, Zelos, Deathevans, Lulu, Leopold, Arc

First off, Zelos just loses to everyone to me. He's close against Arc, but Arc regening MP much better+L1 Invin being cheap on turns Zelos might double+Zelos stuff being very expensive seals that one to me.

Magus crushes Deathevans, Leopold...77% PC HP damage is nice! But his crit rate is something I just don't see happening often at all. Magus takes that easily too. Lulu crushes Magus. Arc...really depends on if Magus is susceptible to stat downs. The really bad news for Magus is that Arc can always hit his elemental weakness. Tentative Arc vote, I think.

Deathevans...40% ID against Lulu's MDef, what does that push it down to? 30% is barely turn 4. Granted, Lulu might only get 2 turns in that internal. But if she pushes it down to like 20%, I'd imagine she wins. Leopold takes him easily, Arc likely gets beaten by running out of MP thanks to threat of ID and think Evans fully immuning status.

Lulu beats Leopold (Well, same status odds as Evans! But...whereas Evans status just kills her...Leopold needs to then depend on his super rare crit) and likely outlasts Arc (unsure what Weak Enemy does to evasion...which I might test sometime). Tentative Lulu vote that I don't think will change.

Lulu 4-0
Magus 3-2
Arc 3-2
Deathevans 2-2
Leopold 2-3
Zelos 0-5

Middle/Heavy:
Drachma, Canas, Sasarai, Tosh, Yuki, Alice

Drachma beats Canas (only need to Charge up to Tackle!)
-Sasarai- Think halved EQ+LoE offs Drachma.
-Tosh...well, he's not normally OHKOed by Tackle, and after Weak Enemy, Drachma maximizes time by going for Hand of Fate. Drachma needs 5 turns for that, so I see Tosh getting at least 4 turns. Turn 1 for Weak Enemy, 3 more turns and Jubakuken hits. Weak Enemy has worn out by then! But the paralysis isn't so good for Drachma. Think Tosh takes that.
-Yuki should live through a Tackle, so Drachma needs 3 turns (SC+Physical+Tackle). First turn SC drops Yuki's damage too much.
-Alice- Probably his best option to go for HoF again, so 5 turns and at least 4 for Alice. Drachma takes that easily.

Canas...Sasarai, yeah guess the MEvade should be pretty useful here. Tosh...Canas gets in the first hit, Weak Enemy, Tosh gets the next turn and smash. Yuki takes him out pretty easily. And if NEB thinks that Alice beats Canas, then I'd imagine she does by my averages!

Tosh outspeeds EQ, but his Weak Enemy move is magic, so I see Sasarai getting it turn 1. Alice blocks Paralysis, is faster turn 1...blar, that one depends on when he doubles really. Tosh deals with Yuki pretty easily.

Sasarai OHKOs Alice, smashes Yuki. Alice already has the auto-win for Yuki.

Sasarai 5-0
Tosh 3-1
Drachma 3-2
Alice 2-2
Yuki 1-4
Canas 0-5

Either way, Canas and Yuki go/stay down to me.

Light/Middle:
Miranda, Rikku, Nei, Cid Highwind, Dinn, FuSoYa
Holding off on Rikku for arghle reasons.

Miranda- Nei has about 60% Physical Damage...which just OHKOes Miranda. Think Cid takes her too, since she needs 5 attacking turns to off him, and has to stay out Dragoon turn for 2 turns to make this strategy works. Feels like the Defending strategy doesn't get her there quickly enough since he'll be building up too much. Cid 2HKOs her easily. Dinn...the speed difference might be large enough for Defending strategy to work. Unsure on FuSoYa

Nei- Beats Cid, since 60% damage isn't kicking an L3 in, Dinn (Both 3HKO each other, she's much faster), FuSoYa does his thing...barely. She misses that OHKO marginally.

Cid- Dinn is an easy win, FuSoYa does his status thing.

Dinn- At least Dinn can halve status! Image makes it irrelevant

FuSoYa 3-0
Nei 3-1
Cid 2-2
Miranda 1-2
Dinn 0-4
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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 11:28:39 PM »
I just thought I'd post for the first time and really didn't know where to do it, so apologies if there is an actual topic for this. Of course I find the site right when one of the seasons finishes up, but oh well. I'm just glad to find one of these sites again. Bobbin Cranbud was awesome. Be posting hopefully regularly.

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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 11:31:35 PM »
We don't have breaks in the seasons (Just a week 6 for upgrades and downgrades, and the team fight), so check back saturday morning/afternoon to see the next season. And welcome to the DL. 
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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 02:56:40 AM »
Well that's awesome actually, and thanks.

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Re: Season 42, Week 6: Lady in a team match? Oh dear god.
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 03:16:22 AM »
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I and several others have been here since the beginning for the DL, and the site itself says, we came from Cranbud's place. (IF you remember the BCB boards, the DL came from those).
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