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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #350 on: March 16, 2009, 01:01:21 AM »
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Am I being irrational here? I mean, I am his sister, so of course I'm concerned on that basis alone, but... I can't help but feel this is just a really bad idea. I'm not doing so well at appealing to logic either.

Try telling him that Gov. Ritter/Colorado has instituted a hiring freeze until the economic situation improves and that finding a job there with his credentials is next to impossible.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #351 on: March 16, 2009, 01:10:57 AM »
Try telling him that Gov. Ritter/Colorado the national economy has instituted a hiring freeze until the economic situation improves and that finding a job there with his credentials is next to impossible.

Yeah, this is not a good time for that, if there can ever be a good time to pick up and strike out on your own with no money and no skills.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #352 on: March 16, 2009, 02:06:11 AM »
Tried all of it.

You know what the kicker is?

His (long-distance, online-only) girlfriend is there. Some other online friends are also there. He is confident that their promise to give him room and board until he gets his first paycheck is going to hold up.

He's never been to Colorado and never looked for a job.

Words cannot express how phenomenally bad an idea this is for him, but he's determined to ignore reality, get $200 for a ticket to CO and go from there.

Honestly I'm not sure what to do. He is 21, so he's legally (if not emotionally) capable of getting that $200 and plane ticket. Feeling kind of helpless. Mostly I think we should just let him go, but... neither my parents nor myself are financially capable of picking him up if he falls.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #353 on: March 16, 2009, 02:36:04 AM »
Your brother is a complete moron. Sorry, but someone has to say it :/


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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #354 on: March 16, 2009, 03:38:41 AM »
He shouldn't have all his easter eggs in one basket. It's always good to have backup plans, just in case.

GL and hugs anyway LD =/
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #355 on: March 16, 2009, 04:00:00 AM »
My brother is an idiot.

Yep, he's 21 and determined. You're not going to be able to stop him.

Go ahead and call an army recruiter in Colorado now and tell them his new temporary address so they know where to pick him up when he's destitute.

Army's not a great place right now, but it's better than starving or whoring yourself for food (assuming he's even good-looking and resourceful enough to whore himself).

Basically, the best way to get through to him is tell him what the reality of the situation will be if he fails, but tell him as if you support him completely. He's not going to listen to 'you can't do this, it's stupid'. But he MIGHT listen to 'Okay, I'll help you with what I can - how do you feel about boot camp should your girlfriend be unable to support you? Yeah, I can set that up for you!'

Once he doesn't have to defend his choice anymore and starts actually thinking about the reality of it, he may come around..

And if not... like I said, the army's better than starving...

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #356 on: March 16, 2009, 04:51:14 AM »
Go ahead and call an army recruiter in Colorado now and tell them his new temporary address so they know where to pick him up when he's destitute.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with a call for army recruitment, but given an article I read recently on young homeless youth and the relative probabilities of whoring/meth/arrest/prison rape/HIV in America...honestly, that actually sounds like a good plan.

The other thing you might ask your brother is if there's something he's running away from, something he doesn't want your parents to find out because he's afraid he'll be kicked out.  (If your family wasn't from San Franciso, this is the point where I'd say "maybe your brother's gay and is scared to tell you"--although actually my aid worker friends tell me being kicked out for being gay happens surprisingly often in SF too, but I bet the kids never expect it!)
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #357 on: March 16, 2009, 06:04:48 AM »
Yeah, he is an idiot. But he's an idiot in loooove~

I do support him completely. He's been stuck at home for the past 6-8 years, doing nothing. He's been stuck in the middle of everything -- my grandfather's problems, my mother's surgeries, my dad's itinerant lifestyle -- and kind of fell through the cracks. He's spent his time on the computer, making connections with people who live far away (and, well, in Colorado). He's finally feeling the itch to get up and do something for himself. It's just one of those itches that throws him headlong into the first appealing option, apparently.

I had a lengthy chat with his girlfriend a little while ago and she seems a little more level-headed than he is. The compromise is that we (meaning my parents and myself) will find a way to get him a plane ticket for a visit, and that he'd get a job at home for a couple months and move in the summer once he's saved some money.

Given that he is a legal adult, I imagine that's probably the best I can hope for. Am playing the spy as a go-between for my parents, so we'll see what their response to this is.

Go ahead and call an army recruiter in Colorado now and tell them his new temporary address so they know where to pick him up when he's destitute.
I can't believe I'm agreeing with a call for army recruitment, but given an article I read recently on young homeless youth and the relative probabilities of whoring/meth/arrest/prison rape/HIV in America...honestly, that actually sounds like a good plan.

The other thing you might ask your brother is if there's something he's running away from, something he doesn't want your parents to find out because he's afraid he'll be kicked out.  (If your family wasn't from San Franciso, this is the point where I'd say "maybe your brother's gay and is scared to tell you"--although actually my aid worker friends tell me being kicked out for being gay happens surprisingly often in SF too, but I bet the kids never expect it!)

Heh. My mom was raised in North Bay, but we've lived in Texas/Southern California most of my life. While it's possible my brother would be afraid to say anything to my dad (hell, so would I and I get along with him; dad's Red through and through, a former Marine), my dad's never home and my mom's a total hugs-trees hippie, so it'd be safe enough. :p His girlfriend has called home, though, so my parents have talked to her briefly as well -- we're all sort of assuming she really is a girl instead of an extremely effete male. In these days, who can tell? But it doesn't matter in the long run. :P

We'll see how this goes.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #358 on: March 16, 2009, 01:16:48 PM »
Holy shit am I still dead. I am not going to do well on school today.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #359 on: March 16, 2009, 03:20:01 PM »
Oof. Best of luck to your bro figuring things out, LD. It's a hell of a time to be starting things anew like that. Take it from the guy scraping by in New York right now.

IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT STRAGO'S RAMBLINGS ABOUT HIS RECENTLY-ENDED RELATIONSHIP, SKIP THIS POST. YE HATH BEEN WARNED.

So one of my good friends from college recently became 5% owner of a new paintball company near Boston, and I drove up (with a couple other friends who are still in school) Saturday morning to do a bit of a test run. 15 or so people total, we played for a good three hours. Holy hell was that a good time. I'd never played before, but most assuredly will again. It's just a complete blast.

After that I ended up spending the night in Boston with my friends. On Sunday, instead of just heading back to Brooklyn as I'd planned... well, Saturday night I got an e-mail I'd been expecting from my ex-girlfriend. The idea had been that after two weeks of radio silence she'd e-mail me to see how I was doing, if I felt like talking about things, etc. What surprised me was that she suggested perhaps meeting in person, instead of just talking on the phone. What surprised me more was that my reaction was "Huh. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea." So I ended up spending most of Sunday on the ol' campus. The ex-lady and I took a long walk and talked for two or three hours. It was... hard. And emotionally intense. But also really good. It definitely confirmed for me that I was done with the relationship, and in many ways had been since before it actually ended. The talk also helped me to put a bead on some things about our relationship's dynamic that... well, while I always had an unconscious awareness of them that I wasn't addressing at all, I can now see them in pretty stark relief. I also got a chance to take her to task for some ways in which she was pretty straight-up shitty to me over the past year. It wasn't aggressive, I wasn't there to fight. But it was good -- for both of us, I think -- to have me subvert the dominant paradigm of our interactions and just tell her how things stood/stand without worrying about her feelings or assume that she was more right about something/anything than I was.

It was also pretty clear on both of our parts that we still care about each other, and there's still a kind of love there. And that we really, really don't want to cut each other out of our life entirely. So now we embark on the long process of figuring out when and how to have a friendship. First step is another two weeks of non-contact, after which I'll email her and see if she wants to start figuring out some ground-rules for how we do interact: e-mail, G-chat, hanging out in groups of friends, etc. Frankly I'm not entirely convinced, still, that we won't end up together again some day. But I'm 100% sure that it isn't what I want right now, or even in the foreseeable future.

Hrmm. Yup. Intense, occasionally confusing (but more enlightening, on balance), and hard. But also extremely good. I feel good.

WHOOPS DID I TURN THE GOOD MORNING TOPIC INTO A BLOG SORRY DUDES HA HA

Ahem. Oh, and after talking with the ex I hung out with friends on campus and joined some of them as a guest PC in a smallish D&D campaign they've been running, which was extremely awesome. Yay!

Next step in life: get a drink with the extremely attractive girl who graduated with me, had a crush on me for all of last year, and also lives in Brooklyn. Woo.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #360 on: March 16, 2009, 05:12:32 PM »
Oof. Best of luck to your bro figuring things out, LD. It's a hell of a time to be starting things anew like that. Take it from the guy scraping by in New York right now.

IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT STRAGO'S RAMBLINGS ABOUT HIS RECENTLY-ENDED RELATIONSHIP, SKIP THIS POST. YE HATH BEEN WARNED.

So one of my good friends from college recently became 5% owner of a new paintball company near Boston, and I drove up (with a couple other friends who are still in school) Saturday morning to do a bit of a test run. 15 or so people total, we played for a good three hours. Holy hell was that a good time. I'd never played before, but most assuredly will again. It's just a complete blast.

After that I ended up spending the night in Boston with my friends. On Sunday, instead of just heading back to Brooklyn as I'd planned... well, Saturday night I got an e-mail I'd been expecting from my ex-girlfriend. The idea had been that after two weeks of radio silence she'd e-mail me to see how I was doing, if I felt like talking about things, etc. What surprised me was that she suggested perhaps meeting in person, instead of just talking on the phone. What surprised me more was that my reaction was "Huh. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea." So I ended up spending most of Sunday on the ol' campus. The ex-lady and I took a long walk and talked for two or three hours. It was... hard. And emotionally intense. But also really good. It definitely confirmed for me that I was done with the relationship, and in many ways had been since before it actually ended. The talk also helped me to put a bead on some things about our relationship's dynamic that... well, while I always had an unconscious awareness of them that I wasn't addressing at all, I can now see them in pretty stark relief. I also got a chance to take her to task for some ways in which she was pretty straight-up shitty to me over the past year. It wasn't aggressive, I wasn't there to fight. But it was good -- for both of us, I think -- to have me subvert the dominant paradigm of our interactions and just tell her how things stood/stand without worrying about her feelings or assume that she was more right about something/anything than I was.

It was also pretty clear on both of our parts that we still care about each other, and there's still a kind of love there. And that we really, really don't want to cut each other out of our life entirely. So now we embark on the long process of figuring out when and how to have a friendship. First step is another two weeks of non-contact, after which I'll email her and see if she wants to start figuring out some ground-rules for how we do interact: e-mail, G-chat, hanging out in groups of friends, etc. Frankly I'm not entirely convinced, still, that we won't end up together again some day. But I'm 100% sure that it isn't what I want right now, or even in the foreseeable future.

Hrmm. Yup. Intense, occasionally confusing (but more enlightening, on balance), and hard. But also extremely good. I feel good.

WHOOPS DID I TURN THE GOOD MORNING TOPIC INTO A BLOG SORRY DUDES HA HA

Ahem. Oh, and after talking with the ex I hung out with friends on campus and joined some of them as a guest PC in a smallish D&D campaign they've been running, which was extremely awesome. Yay!

Next step in life: get a drink with the extremely attractive girl who graduated with me, had a crush on me for all of last year, and also lives in Brooklyn. Woo.

While I normally wouldn't recommend long walks and discussions after a break-up, the way you've presented it here sounds really healthy. The time period between contact, the analytical setting of boundaries...

Almost too healthy - where's my soap opera drama-angst!? This is -not- going to get high ratings! ;)

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #361 on: March 16, 2009, 05:51:23 PM »
WHOOPS DID I TURN THE GOOD MORNING TOPIC INTO A BLOG SORRY DUDES HA HA
Wait, there was a time when the good morning topic was not a blog?

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #362 on: March 16, 2009, 06:03:36 PM »
Well, no. It's usually just not quite so much about being punched by CONCENTRATED EMOTION WORDS.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #363 on: March 16, 2009, 06:31:25 PM »
It is Spring. I have declared it.

1)Whatever SAD I might have seems to have evaporated.
2)I'm suddenly reminded that I wouldn't mind playing with boobies.

Therefore: Spring.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #364 on: March 16, 2009, 10:03:48 PM »
Wait, you need spring in the air to remind you that that is an awesome activity?  What kind of guy are you?

In related news, glad to hear things are working out for you Strago.  Especially that whole taking the time to put one relationship to rest before moving on thing.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #365 on: March 16, 2009, 10:25:32 PM »
It's like a VSM Groundhog Day

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #366 on: March 16, 2009, 10:41:05 PM »
My only shock in reading this topic today was that it wasn't Zenthor, Grefter or super making the comment above me.

Granted I have to wonder how much of VSM's comment has to do with lunch today, and if I need to buy him a top hat.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #368 on: March 17, 2009, 03:35:13 AM »
Got back from camping.  Lake stores are rip offs.  Being a drunk ass and falling into a lake is more fun than it sounds. 

Sleeping in a tent with two other guys for two days with little air circulation, on the otherhand, is exactly as fun as it sounds.  Mein gott.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #369 on: March 17, 2009, 03:35:57 AM »
Being a drunk ass and falling into a lake is more fun than it sounds.

I can attest to this wisdom.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #370 on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:32 AM »
Liberal arts majors need to sober up and get real jobs.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #371 on: March 17, 2009, 04:59:17 AM »
Being a drunk ass and falling into a lake is more fun than it sounds.

I can attest to this wisdom.

4am drunk naked rope swing into the lake.  A lot more fun than it sounds.

Not that I ever did that, of course.  And certainly not while trespassing.  That would be crazy.
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« Reply #372 on: March 17, 2009, 07:00:43 AM »
Granted I have to wonder how much of VSM's comment has to do with lunch today, and if I need to buy him a top hat.

I wouldn't say NO to a tophat.

Also ???. Is this because we talked about strippers?

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #373 on: March 17, 2009, 07:29:13 AM »
Liberal arts majors need to sober up and get real jobs.

Yeah, they should be in Engineering instead!  That way they can...

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...Get drunk off their ass and toss volkswagen beetles off the sides of bridges:

http://heustory.apsc.ubc.ca/wiki/index.php/Golden_Gate_Bridge_-_2001
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #374 on: March 17, 2009, 08:23:41 AM »
The local police actually managed to catch some of them to press charges recently.