Week 1 - Eliminations
Lezard Valeth vs Daos
Zenthor
Dark Reflector is really the deciding factor here. If he can get it off before Lezard rapes him with his spells, then Daos wins. If Lezard goes first, he has to finish Daos off in one round to kill Daos off. This is something I don't think he can do.
Lezard Valeth: 6
Daos: 9
Wave Existance
Dark Reflector >>>>> Pure Mages
OblivionKnight
Heh...Lezard's magic won't do a thing against Daos' Dark Reflector. Think Lezard would like to eat his own Meteor Swarm? I think not...
Excal
To be fair, the Sinistrals have never been all that impressive. Meanwhile, Lezard does have spammable Great Magic.
DomaDragoon
Even with his every-turn Great Magic (a fact I had forgotten, since I'm used to him on my side), Lezard simply can't win a war of attrition, which is basically what Daos does.
Sir Alex
Dark Reflector and healing and status attacks, oh me oh my.
Rob the Stampede
Daos never gave me much trouble. Lezard, however, did.
Kuja vs Grahf
GenocideHeart
Grahf has this tendency to be, well, crap. He may be Godlike, but most Godlikes can beat him... and Transvestite Thong Monkey Boy is better than most Godlikes, despite his terrible fashion sense.
Kuja: 15
Grahf: 0
Dark Holy Elf
Star Flare counters + Curaga + speed is a nasty combo.
Excal
Curaga and Flare Star is the kicker here.
Sir Alex
Grahf doesn't do enough damage to overpower Curaga by THAT much. Kuja can bomb Grahf until his HP is low enough for the Flare Stars to kick in, and then Curaga every turn and let the counters do the rest.
Jack Power
Grahf was a minor mid-game boss with somewhat impressive attacks and a plot ability that doesn't help him at all. Kuja was the main villain and second to last boss, with impressive magic and extremely powerful plot ability. No contest.
Rob the Stampede
Simply, Kuja can just heal and rely on counters for damage. Attrition.
Gourry
Kuja is fast. He also has strong spells and healing. Grahf is strong, but he probably can't take many of Kuja's spells.
Zeal, Queen vs Jowy Atreides
Excal
While True Runes are very strong, as well as their wielders, they can't help you if you don't have the charges to use them. MP Buster, Hallation, then death.
Zeal, Queen: 14
Jowy Atreides: 0
Dark Holy Elf
Jowy is fast, but not fast enough to Hungry Friend twice before MP Buster stops his offence cold.
OblivionKnight
Easy win for Zeal. Sorry, Jowy, but you won't kill her before she kills you.
Psy Slaver
Heh.... Ha ha.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha... Jowy strong enough to beat Zeal before she gets two moves off? You gotta be kidding...
Sir Alex
Zeal. Although she doesn't use it, her form that can use Hallation without you being a dumbass and attacking the hands DOES have other attacks.
Rob the Stampede
This is really one-sided... almost all of Jowy's Black Sword Rune spells are hit-all spells. Without these spells, Jowy is just an above average fighter. All Zeal needs to do use Hallation and tap Jowy on the shoulder (or cast Hexagate, either way).
Gourry
Anastasia Valeria vs Tir McDohl
Excal
Anastasia has no chance in this match. And here's why I think that. First off, Salvation is no good unless she uses it. This means that her ID protection is not innate. So she has to go first. Against someone as fast as Tir, her odds of that ain't so hot. However, even if she DOES go first, she's still not guaranteed a win. After all, Salvation ain't gonna do squat unless she has the FP to cast it. Now, unless she starts with 80FP (I looked up how much it costs, so that IS an accurate figure) she ain't gonna cast it on her first turn. Against McDohl, you only get one chance at most, so she'll have to use Impulse. Now, Impulse does 15k against the big baddie, and 7k against random enemies. 15k is lethal no matter what, 7k is impressive, but a strong person with good HP can survive it. This means that McDohl gets his turn and uses Deadly Fingertips, and wins.
Anastasia Valeria: 4
Tir McDohl: 8
Dekar TKB
Blah blah blah Deadly Fingertips blah.
OblivionKnight
Anastasia is an excellent dueler, and a female to boot. Salvation protects her from dying, and even if Impulse won't do full damage, it will STILL hurt. Plus she's got effective, full-healing.
DomaDragoon
A pity that Salvation's cost is so high, right? Even if she goes first, Tir just instant kills before Salvation can be cast.
Psy Slaver
Heh. Instant death is cool, huh?
Niu
Sorry Ana, Salvation isn't quick enough
Rob the Stampede
Ana's speed is roughly on par with Ashley's. Tir is among the fastest characters in Suikoden, with a 100% instant death spell. Tir quickdraws Deadly Fingertips, Ana goes down.
Myau vs Gades
Zenthor
Gades stomped in, eager to hand out pure, unbridaled destruction to his opponent. He looked around. "Where is my enemy?"
"Look down," responded a small voice. Gades gazed down at the small cat known as Myau. Immediately, his eyes turned into little pink hearts!
"Ooh! Kitty kitty kitty! Look at the kitty!" He ran over and picked Myau up, and sat down. "I'll feed him and love him and keep him safe and hug him and call him George and love him!" he yelled as he hugged Myau tightly. He sat there for the next three minutes, chanting "Kitty kitty kitty" and hugging Myau.
"I'm... confused..." uttered Amon, from the stands.
"You're always confused, you're the Sinistral of Chaos," Erim reminded him.
"Oh, yeah."
"This is sickening," Daos muttered under his breath as he watched the atrocity of a fight.
Back on the arena floor, Gades was... still hugging Myau, obviously not hearing the pleas to be released. "Can't. Breath. Let. Go. GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAHCK."
"Gaaaaa-k?" Gades blinked, confused. "I thought kitties went meo--" he looked at the suffocated corpse of Myau. "Oh, no!" Gades bawled. "MY KITTY!! WAAAAAH! DAAAOOO~SS!!!" Gades screamed, running from the arena.
"I want to vomit." The three sinistrals muttered in unison after the... "Battle"... was over
Myau: 0
Gades: 8
Dekar TKB
Undead makes Gades too powerful for Myau. He has too much HP for Myau to take him down before he maxes out, and kills it in one shot.
OblivionKnight
I think it's a little closer than most think, but Gades still takes it. His Lufia form allows him Undead, which gives him a MAJOR boost to attack AND defense, which is stackable. Myau may be fast, strong, and have lots of variety, but Gades can smash the kitty in one hit. A pity, really.
Excal
Not much to really say here. Though I do feel a little sad for Myau.
GenocideHeart
That's what happens when a kitty first tries to scratch an armored foes, and then is stepped on by said armored foe... Sorry, Myau.
Beatrix vs Lucian
Dark Holy Elf
The Blind argument works for me. Beatrix's speed is also crucial to the equation.
Beatrix: 13
Lucian: 1
OblivionKnight
Blind works for me as well.
Excal
Lucian had my vote, then came the Blind revelation.
Gourry
Bah. I don't remember if Blind worked that often, but Beatrix is comparable in power with Lucian. While it wouldn't take more than one or two rounds of Shining Bolt + Round Rip Saber combos to beat Beatrix, a blind Lucian isn't going to hit anything.
Wave Existance
Beatrix has crappy damage....but at least she has healing. Lucian has crappy damage and no healing.
GenocideHeart
The Blind thing would normally work... except that Lucian has a habit of locking opponents in a Stun status with the exaggerated number of hits Shining Bolt does. I don't recall Beatrix being exaggeratedly fast, so I, just barely, give this to Lucian. But it is REALLY close and could go either way.
Dekar TKB
I'd have never thought of Blind had it not been mentioned, but...Healing+Blind. Lucian really can't do enough damage to counter it.
Valvalis vs Robo
Gourry
Damn. I hate Valvalis, and I like Robo, but she can probably beat him... she has the weak spell (Tornado in other versions), which lowers HP to critical levels. While Robo can heal this damage, that is one turn that he needs to smash her up. She's faster than Robo, even with the Atropos Ribbon. I don't think that stone will work, but one weak spell and a well placed physical attack should do the trick.
Valvalis: 15
Robo: 2
Dark Holy Elf
Valvalis is too fast for Robo.
OblivionKnight
Yeah, bosses are typically stronger than PCs.
Excal
Valvalis may not be much in the way of raw attack, but she has the speed and will double turn Robo eventually.
Zenthor
Valvalis' tornado form shut's down Robo's physical attacks, which still leaves him pretty well off, with his techs... unless, that is, Valvalis' tornado form also would block those, since they're not magic related. Close match in one interpretation, blowout in the other. Either way, Valvalis should be able to pull this off.
DomaDragoon
Valvalis' speed isn't that great. Robo's is average (with Atropos' Ribbon). Promethius need only open up with a Shock (was it my imagination, or did Val take more damage from lightning that the other elements? She's not weak to it...) and alternate between healing and Laser Spins to take it.
Psy Slaver
Robo is too slow. He will have to choose between healing or causing damage, and he will end up dead either way.
Alex vs Royce
OblivionKnight
Yep, he boss wins again.
Alex: 0
Royce: 14
Dark Holy Elf
Flamebird. Shot Lancer.
Excal
An easy in-game comparison.
DomaDragoon
In nearly every case, Boss > PC when they're in the same game.
Psy Slaver
It's a given. Her Flame Bird gives her the edge.
Sir Alex
I think there's a reasonable grey area in most matches. But when both people are from the same game... much as I'd like my companion in namehood to advance, he has no chance to survive make his time.
Jack Power
Alex is a good fighter, but up against a late game boss from his own game, um...
Rinoa Heartilly vs Ursula
Sir Alex
Ursula's Death, which is actually very inaccurate compared to other game's versions of it, comes in useful for something. Whoulda thought?
Rinoa Heartilly: 4
Ursula: 8
OblivionKnight
Rinoa's not immune to death, is she? Only if she hits her limit, and Ursula will make sure that doesn't happen.
Jack Power
Close match, but I think Ursula has a decent chance of getting off a Death spell before Rinoa does serious damage.
Rob the Stampede
Ursula had quite a few of those great multi-hit weapons that do a great job of tearing in to the enemy.
Gourry
Rinoa. Bah. They're pretty even, but Death almost never worked for me in the BOF games
Wave Existance
Ursula deals good damage with the Repeater (Not the Culverin or Electrifyer mind you).....Rinoa doesn't do good damage, and she won't be surviving to get any Desperation off.
Alma Beoulve vs Elena
Gourry
Easy. Alma's pretty underrated, and Elena's not going to get her status attack off.
Alma Beoulve: 10
Elena: 5
Dark Holy Elf
Alma. Seems like an easy enough pick.
OblivionKnight
Yeah, Alma is built to win this fight.
Excal
Yeah, it's as if Alma was meant to off her.
DomaDragoon
Ooh, I'm so scared by Alma's mediocre damage and piss-poor MP. That said, Elena wins in a long, drawn out battle. God she sucks.
Sir Alex
Alma in Middle? *shakes head* Yeah.
Rob the Stampede
Elena was... well, crap.
Marle (Nadia Guardia) vs Futch
Sir Alex
Haste. Healing. Ice 2, which isn't really that bad of a spell. But most of all, Flirt.
Marle (Nadia Guardia): 11
Futch: 3
Dark Holy Elf
Haste, healing... she'll outlast Futch.
OblivionKnight
Longevity is Marle's advantage here. Haste, attack, heal, repeat.
Excal
Longevity > mediocrity
Psy Slaver
The fight will be long, but Marle won't lose to the likes of Futch.
Rob the Stampede
One critical from the Masamune puts Marle down.
Gourry
This battle sucks. Futch has a lightning Rune, but that's not going to kill Marle, who has above average Magic Defense. Unless he criticals her (which WILL kill her), he stands no chance. On the other hand, Marle's going to be healing, then shooting him. It'll take her about 90 years to kill him, but she can do it.
Hahn Mahlay vs Viki
Dekar TKB
I don't believe Viki's teleportation spells should work, but since the rules clearly state she gets it, Hahn is cheated out of a win.
Hahn Mahlay: 4
Viki: 5
OblivionKnight
Hahn is very underrated. I don't see Viki's rune working for her often enough to be a factor.
Excal
Hahn ain't going first, Viki's rune works more often than it doesn't.
Psy Slaver
Viki, I love you. But without a decent Rune, you can't win matches in Light, let alone Heavy.
Niu
Viki-Teleport than ring out. She couldn't possibely fail if she is all by herself
GenocideHeart
*blink* *Hahn reappears 10 miles over the ground* *a VERY long scream is heard, ending in a sickening thud*
Kelvena vs Kongol
Excal
I ain't gonna touch this one
Kelvena: 3
Kongol: 11
OblivionKnight
Yes, this IS a joke match.
Dark Holy Elf
Kongol. At least he does damage.
Jack Power
Why are the Elements even in this? Throw them out and stick to the playables and main bosses.
Rob the Stampede
I autovote against Kelvena
Wave Existance
I give Kelvena a scaled down Water spell....and Kongol with his horrid magic defense isn't surviving it.
Fanboy Crusher
Kongol
At least he does damage
Elly van Houten vs Luna
Jack Power
I'm not giving Luna her goddess powers, so even Elly can mop the floor with her.
Elly van Houten: 12
Luna: 1
Dark Holy Elf
I'm still wondering how Elly ended up in Light. Even stat-scaled, Luna has no chance.
OblivionKnight
Eh...Elly isn't that great, but she does much better damage.
Excal
Much as I like Luna...
Wave Existance
Sleep Status (Almost 100% chance) + Ether Doubler + 100% Accuracy Spells = fairly good dueler. Elly mostly suffers from Speed and Longevity problems...
In this match....constant Hyper Water Deathblows should work just fine...seeing as how Luna has NO damage really.
(BTW, I know the Ether Doubler would be banned in this particular tourney, but I bring it up anyways)
Maria Balthasar vs Badrach
Zenthor
Spherestrike.. or whatever it's called... Blows. One hit for measely damage. Maria's controls, while still weak, do not totally blow.
Maria Balthasar: 9
Badrach: 6
Dark Holy Elf
Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.
OblivionKnight
Badrach is not that bad. He can build up to Sphere Strike in 3 rounds, and his attack power is decent. He should be able to survive some Controls to take her out by then ( if she doesn't die earlier ).
[Editor's note: 6 rounds against PC sized enemies actually...maybe 5 on a good day]{Archivist's note: Monkeys}
Excal
They're both the weakest members of their cast. Maria just has the advantage of less really good people to make her relatively worse.
DomaDragoon
Count on Maria to end a Xeno sweep. She doesn't have the physical fortitude to stand up against even Badrach.
Rob the Stampede
...I gotta make the tough call and say Badrach. Maria is slow and fragile.
Gourry
Sphere Shot isn't the worst PWS around, but Badrach probably isn't going to get it off. Control did fairly decent damage, which is more than Badrach can do.
Vincent DeBoule vs Milon
Dark Holy Elf
Heal, cast The Shredding. Repeat until Milon = dead, which won't take long.
Vincent DeBoule: 12
Milon: 1
OblivionKnight
Milon = crap.
Psy Slaver
Vincent - It seems right. He is not exactly a good mage, but still...
Sir Alex
The Shredding. Heal. Repeat. Wait, someone already said that.
Rob the Stampede
Healing and attack magic. Milon without his sidekicks is nearly useless.
Gourry
This a pretty boring match. Milon didn't have much offensive output. Vincent has a lot more with Shredding spells and healing.
Wave Existance
Close....a scaled Milon isn't that bad....but still, anyone with healing should beat him.
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